Tales from Sunday Night Poker (1 Viewer)

Imagine you are Phil Ivey’s backer. You have two WSOP scenarios to choose from:

A) Ivey is at the WSOP final table. All 9 players have about the same number of chips.

B) It’s again the WSOP, and there are two tables of 9 left. All 18 have about the same number of chips.

If your deal with Ivey is that you get 50% of the money if he comes in first, which option do you choose, (A) or (B)?

Of course A, but that has nothing to do with your claim that it is more than twice as difficult to win with 18 left than 9 left.

I mean, depending on the style and skills of a particular player, the claim might hold true for some players, but I read your claim as if is was true "in general", i.e. for a random player, which it of course is not. A random player has exactly 1/9 chance of winning a nine handed table, and exactly half that chance (1/18) of winning two nine handed tables.

If I misunderstood you, then I apologize. Either way, I'll stop now since I don't want to detail further. Sorry @timinater!
 
I was commenting on the points system, which I had been asking the OP about.

In his point system, a person who wins an 9-player tourney gets more than half the points that someone who wins a 18-player tourney gets.

The former gets 15 points, the latter just 26 points.

If one believes a random player’s chances of winning rise along a straight line (simply dividing 100% by the number of participants), then they should be getting more like 30 points.

I’d suggest that they should get more, as A. the 18-player game’s winner will beat more than twice as many opponents (8 vs. 17) and B. the value of one’s skill edge gets blunted as the field gets larger, due to the parlay of tables and compounding of variance, making (in my opinion) the second win more impressive.

I’m asking this not to spoil this thread (though maybe the debate should be taken elsewhere), but because I’m working on my own chart.
 
I’d suggest that they should get more, as A. the 18-player game’s winner will beat more than twice as many opponents (8 vs. 17) and B. the value of one’s skill edge gets blunted as the field gets larger, due to the parlay of tables and compounding of variance, making (in my opinion) the second win more impressive.

I don't agree that it's more than twice as impressive, but I agree with this:
(though maybe the debate should be taken elsewhere),

And just to be clear, regarding
I’m asking this not to spoil this thread
I take full responsibility for the derail. I started the debate, you where just expressing your view and did nothing wrong. Peace! :tup:
 
Last comment — here is my own draft chart, FWIW.
 

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I was commenting on the points system, which I had been asking the OP about.

In his point system, a person who wins an 9-player tourney gets more than half the points that someone who wins a 18-player tourney gets.

The former gets 15 points, the latter just 26 points.

We flattened the point structure out a bit to reward and encourage attendance.
 
Crowned our Season 17 champ tonight and it was none other than my big brother!

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Couple shots from the stream we setup for the guys that had to get home.

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Heads up.
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Pivotal hand. J8 shoves on the flop of 4d5d6s and is called by 6c3c and it holds. 182k pot of the 193k in play. Next hand was purely academic.

T7 vs 72 and ten high holds.
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Another new name on the SNP Cup.
 
Back in action Saturday night. Been waiting patiently to get these bad boys in play. Ordered before the pandemic hit, waited through production delays due to staffing limits at the factory and finally arrived in October right before things got a bit nutty again. Not going to be the biggest crowd, but nevertheless I can't wait.
 
Can I ask if you have updated this at all? I like this over the flatter version.

We ended up not doing the league (COVID intervened etc.). Now hosting only cash games. But I have had some discussions about reviving the idea of a WSOP Main Event entry league, will let you know if there is an update.
 
Took down week 1 of the new season!


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Out in unspectacular fashion for week 2. Couldn't get anything going at our shorthanded table before the merge. Way she goes sometimes!
 
I've heard of "casino grade" chips - is that "casino grade" carpet? :D

Love the door :love:
Yessir. Local casino renovated during covid and sold off their new in box spare carpet. 600sqft for $65. It’s incredible.
 

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