Strange Stud Hi Hand (1 Viewer)

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He is a tight player who bluffs very seldom.

Ante $24 Bring in $36 SB $120 BB $240

Villain: $3618
Hero: $6382

3rd:

Villain: XXAs calls $36
Hero: 4c Jc 10c bings in $36

4th Pot $120

Villain: XXAs 2c checks
Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js ???
 
Ante $24 Bring in $36 SB $120 BB $240


Villain: $3618

Hero: $6382


3rd:


Villain: XXAs calls $36

Hero: 4c Jc 10c bings in $36


4th: Pot $120


Villain: XXAs 2c checks calls $120

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js bet $120


5th: Pot $360


Villain: XXAs 2c Qh checks

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h ???
 
I think also bet / call is a good option

The big question is what does he have in the hole? With an A he would have raised on 3rd so my quess is that he either played 3 card flush with the A as door card or has pair that is lower than my door card because with a higher pair he would raised on 3rd.

Are there any other hands I should give him?
 
5th: Pot $360


Villain: XXAs 2c Qh checks calls $ 240

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h bet $ 240


6th: Pot $840 (now the real strange part begins)


Villain: XXAs 2c Qh Ah checks

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h 5c any other idea an check behind :LOL: :laugh:
 
Yeah obv super easy check behind. If you catch anything at all (two pair, trips, flush) on the river it's a bet if he checks again.
 
Pinball said:
On what hand would you put him?
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The fact that he didn't check-raise you on fifth makes me think he only had ace high, so I'd put him on just a pair of aces at this point without seeing his action after your bet on sixth.

There are some guys who will just check call if they make queens on fifth, but if he has any idea what's happening I think that's either a bet or a c/r.
 
6th: Pot $840


Villain: XXAs 2c Qh Ah checks

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h 5c checks


7th: Pot $840


Villain: XXAs 2c Qh Ah X checks

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h 5c 7c ??
 
Pinball said:
6th: Pot $840


Villain: XXAs 2c Qh Ah checks

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h 5c checks


7th: Pot $840


Villain: XXAs 2c Qh Ah X checks

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h 5c 7c ??
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Bet and don't stop raising (well okay, maybe stop after like 5 bets).
 
jbutler said:
Still a bet and a call if check-raised.
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This. If he check raises, based on his image he could have been slow playing an ace up until this point but rare. Well played on fifth. On 6th, as butler said, check behind. Any 2 pair + I'm calling river. As far as what he has, I doubt he has queens by now--he prob would have bet out or checkraised fifth with those.
 
I think you just call here. Call > raise > fold. And if he has a boat, he missed a bet somewhere anyways, so I wouldn't be disappointed with how you played the hand.
 
7th: Pot $840


Villain: XXAs 2c Qh Ah X checks, $480

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h 5c 7c $ 240, calls


The hand was so strange played by villain so I just called his reraise.

Final Hands:


Villain: Ad 8h As 2c Qh Ah 4s

Hero: 4c Jc 10c Js 3h 5c 7c
 
I could see a case for flatting if he 4 bets but not 3 betting is crazy imo, particularly if you're playing someone super tight from whom it will be difficult to pick up bets in other scenarios.
 
I'm on board with jbutler for all actions for the whole hand. Bet 4th, bet 5th, check 6th, bet/3-bet the end and flat a 4-bet. We have a well-concealed flush against an opponent who probably has aces up, as of the check-raise, but is unlikely to have a flush beat based on his line.

As we know now, he could have actually improved to a full house on the end, but I think we're making money on the third bet overall, given his weird line.

He was probably going for a check-raise on 6th, maybe expecting two pair to bet into him or something (or maybe just instinctively checking when he improved without thinking it through).

Villain did play strangely, but on our end, it's a very straightforward hand.
 
jbutler said:
I could see a case for flatting if he 4 bets but not 3 betting is crazy imo, particularly if you're playing someone super tight from whom it will be difficult to pick up bets in other scenarios.
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Yup, this is right. This is why I shouldn't drink and play poker, or post in strategy threads (although the latter is cheaper).
 
I see my bad play. Some how his line just confused me and I started to worry about everything. So I deceided for the passiv line and just called. Too tight - too passiv...

But that's one reason I will never be a good poker player.
 
Pinball said:
I see my bad play. Some how his line just confused me and I started to worry about everything. So I deceided for the passiv line and just called. Too tight - too passiv...

But that's one reason I will never be a good poker player.
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Don't beat yourself up about it. It's a very clear error but it's not a particularly huge error. It's one bet.

As far as what caused the error, I can only speak from my own experience, but I know that I can tend to be a little more (too?) careful on the river in NL and PL games and so I have to remember in limit games that the final betting round doesn't open a huge hole allowing my opponent to put in a giant bet. The most you can lose if you raise and you're wrong is two bets (your raise plus his raise).

I don't know what your history is relative to NL/PL games but perhaps your thinking is similar.
 
Yeah you're being pretty rough on yourself. Even the best botch a hand every now and then, or miss bet.
 

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