SOHE Split Strat: Trips in hand (1 Viewer)

[jbutler]

I was in the straddle with this hand this past weekend at BBotB and my decision turned out to result in a $500 swing.

5s 5c 5h 6d 7s 8h

Spoiler alert: it will split. But will it split well?

 

[Mr Tree]

I was in the straddle with this hand this past weekend at BBotB and my decision turned out to result in a $500 swing.

5s 5c 5h 6d 7s 8h

Spoiler alert: it will split. But will it split well?

I read the book pal. Life's to short to play trips in hand. If you just feel the need to do it I think splitting a pair of 5s either way adds no value so you have to set for dual straighting opp right?

5c6d
5s5h7s8h

????

 

[gopherblue]

Well, just jam and flop quads on both sides. Scoop. SOHE is easy.


(Maybe I should read Jim's book....)

 

[upNdown]

It shouldn't, but it could.
Same thing happened to me this weekend in a cash sohe hand - I got 3 queens (forget what the other three cards were) so I folded, and of course the queen showed up on the flop.

With your hand, I'd be inclined to go for a straight on both hands, but I wouldn't be expecting much, so I probably wouldn't put too much thought into it.

 

[detroitdad]

5c6d
5s5h7s8h

I concur. I would most likely split it this way as well.

 

[courage]

5s 5c 5h 6d 7s 8h

My solid showing in the SOHE tourney qualifies me to go with the baby wrap, weak flush draw, and pair:

5c 5s
5h 6d 7s 8h

 

[Ronoh]

My solid showing in the SOHE tourney qualifies me to go with the baby wrap, weak flush draw, and pair:

5c 5s
5h 6d 7s 8h

This is correct IMO.

 

[jbutler]

For the pair in hold 'em advocates, are you just playing to flop a one outer or do you plan to play the low wrap and low flush draw OOP for half if necessary?

 

[Mr Tree]

My solid showing in the SOHE tourney qualifies me to go with the baby wrap, weak flush draw, and pair:

5c 5s
5h 6d 7s 8h

This is correct IMO.

I just feel like you are conceding half the pot from the get go by putting 5s on hold em. You have one out to hit a baby set. Omaha is ok but this seems like a setup that is going to make you a vulnerable baby straight for half with nothing on the other if you hit it.

 

[ssanel54]

I would put 57s on HE

 

[Ronoh]

For the pair in hold 'em advocates, are you just playing to flop a one outer or do you plan to play the low wrap and low flush draw OOP for half if necessary?

Looking for Omaha to get nutty as playing the shit end of a straight with nothing on the other side is about the worst thing you could do.

If you manage to find your way to the nut straight your holdem hand is strong as you've either hit the set or are sitting open ended in most cases.

Additionally if you manage to flop the 5 odds are pretty good you've also flopped a draw on the other side.

 

[jbutler]

Requisite tagging of @Jimulacrum since he was only the second worst SOHE tournament player at BBotB. Maybe he has some cash game knowledge?

 

[courage]

For the pair in hold 'em advocates, are you just playing to flop a one outer or do you plan to play the low wrap and low flush draw OOP for half if necessary?

I just feel like you are conceding half the pot from the get go by putting 5s on hold em. You have one out to hit a baby set. Omaha is ok but this seems like a setup that is going to make you a vulnerable baby straight for half with nothing on the other if you hit it.

Pretty much agree, my last post was in a rush. I still like knowing the playability of either hand more clearly with this split but actually I think this is a fold PF no matter what.

 

[Chicken Rob]

fold pre.

 

[Mr Tree]

but actually I think this is a fold PF no matter what.

Agree. This seems to be a hand that is destined to get freerolled if you don't just miss the flop outright.

 

[Chicken Rob]

I do endorse blendtech though. Nice use of their ad in your opening meme.

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

Most likely not gonna hit a set, so either 58hh 5567 or 57ss 5568. Hope for double straights obvs. Would fold this hand in a tourney, but definitely go with it in deep stacked cash game. If you bink you bink huge.

 

[Ronoh]

Most likely not gonna hit a set, so either 58hh 5567 or 57ss 5568. Hope for double straights obvs.

Double straights? Pretty hard to find with that split... to hit the first hold'em straight you need to pair both your omaha 6 and 7, in the second you can't make both without a 4-card straight on board.

 

[Mr Tree]

Part of the problem is even if you nail a straight both ways one of your straights is not a nut straight. I don't mind it as much on the NLHE side as the Omaha.

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

You also have three of the four fives, so you are blocking all but one other straight.

 

[Mr Tree]

So even the lagtards on here advocate a fold.


Clearly this means you opened under the gun with a pot sized raise correct?

 

[Poker Zombie]

Fold pre. Then wait for a holdem table to open so you don't pray that you're not throwing away a mortgage payment hoping your split pot isn't quartered.


again.

 

[jbutler]

Folding pre from the straddle to no raise seems like it would be the right play, I admit, but extensive analysis reveals that I should see a free flop with any hand. Crazy, but you can't argue with the numbers.

 

[upNdown]

Unless I'm reading this wrong, jbutler straddled this hand, and I assume there were no raises, so folding pre isn't really an option - am I right?

 

[courage]

If this example isn't in the book I want my money back.

 

[Mr Tree]

Folding pre from the straddle to no raise seems like it would be the right play, I admit, but extensive analysis reveals that I should see a free flop with any hand. Crazy, but you can't argue with the numbers.

 

[bergs]

Only correct play IMO

 

[bergs]

Fold pre. Then wait for a holdem table to open so you don't pray that you're not throwing away a mortgage payment hoping your split pot isn't quartered.


again.

Worst advice in the history of this site.

 

[bergs]

Worst advice in the history of this site.

I meant the play hold em part. Open folding is strong play.

 

[Ronoh]

Only correct play IMO

Problem is we have no idea which of the 26 previous posts you read just before writing this