Should i try pot limit holdem? (1 Viewer)

[xdukeluvax]

Been curious about pot limit holdem lately but never have played it myself.
Curious to hear from whoever runs or plays limit holdem and why you may prefer it and maybe why i should try it at my next game

 

[detroitdad]

NO

 

[umbkcshah]

Pot limit is nice. Hardest part is tracking pot and allowable bet sizes.

However in a casual group, not worth it. Maybe just run a tournament

 

[Shaggy]

You mention “pot limit” and then later “limit.”

There are four betting clarifications in hold’em games:
1. No Limit
2. Pot Limit
3. Spread Limit
4. Fixed Limit (or just Limit)

Are you asking about “pot limit” where the maximum bet is the amount currently in the pot or “fixed limit” where the bets are a predetermined amount?

 

[SeanGecko]

Try everything!
Tell no one!

 

[grebe]

I don't see the reason to do pot limit holdem. To be honest, the only time it would play different is during the open preflop. Otherwise, most holdem games really play between the rails... Not many live games see much over pot once you get past the first open.

 

[xdukeluvax]

NO

 

[xdukeluvax]

NO

I don't see the reason to do pot limit holdem. To be honest, the only time it would play different is during the open preflop. Otherwise, most holdem games really play between the rails... Not many live games see much over pot once you get past the first open.

Yeah good point…. Maybe pot limit pre flop then no limit post flop would make the most since if i were to try something different.

 

[JoeBGo]

We’ve been playing $1/$2 PLO a lot lately. The other comments here are correct. It usually only limits the bet sizing pre flop. If you’re playing just hold’em, I can’t see wasting the time tracking preflop raises and pot size. Just play NL.
That being said it’s totally possible to have $1000+ pots playing $1/$2 PLO. So adjust your blinds accordingly.

 

[Machine]

Holdem is a game of starting hands, pot limit isnt a good game.

Unless you’re able to play for 20k+ I prefer fixed limit, I find you can often win more and it’s a better playable game.

 

[grebe]

Holdem is a game of starting hands, pot limit isnt a good game.

Unless you’re able to play for 20k+ I prefer fixed limit, I find you can often win more and it’s a better playable game.

Although I agree with you, introducing fixed limit holdem to your group as a way of mixing it up will not go well.

Play mixed games. It's poker of the future!

 

[SeanGecko]

Although I agree with you, introducing fixed limit holdem to your group as a way of mixing it up will not go well.

Play mixed games. It's poker of the future!

Doing pot limit hold'em for a round then doing crazy pineapple or PLO can be a good way to introduce the betting structure before introducing new games

 

[buzzmonkey]

We did PLHE for years. It does control early betting and can prevent the big stacks from overheating early. I say try it and see if you like it.

 

[CrazyEddie]

Pot Limit Preflop, No Limit Postflop is a betting structure just waiting to take off. It stops degenerate gamblers from inflating the stakes by opening for 10x every hand, and makes it more likely that you get to play four streets of poker.

Not every group has that issue, of course, and not every group sees it as an issue even if they do. YMMV

 

[CantSpellPoker]

I always liked how the PokerStars tv show “The Big Game” from quite a while back was pot limit preflop and no limit post flop, and I’ve always been sort of surprised that it didn’t catch on.

 

[SteveEH]

I used to do pot limit pre flop and no limit post flop to keep the gamblers from opening too big (as @CrazyEddie mentioned above).

Most of my group aren't big gamblers so we play fixed limit and spread limit too. Last game we played pot limit mostly and the only thing I'd recommend is what someone else suggest on this forum - don't let players say "pot." Make them state the amount they're betting and challenge them if you think their bet is more than what's in the pot.

Why are you entertaining this, or fixed limit, anyway?

 

[FordPickup92]

NO

 

[grebe]

Pot Limit Preflop, No Limit Postflop is a betting structure just waiting to take off. It stops degenerate gamblers from inflating the stakes by opening for 10x every hand

It's funny you say this... As my standard opening bet in a casino 1/2 game would be to $12, and adjust from there based on trying to get to the flop max 3 ways.... Most times I have to make it $15.

I consider the callers the gamblers.

I'm this environment, I would do a bunch of back raising pre.... Which would probably make the pots bigger.

 

[CrazyEddie]

Last game we played pot limit mostly and the only thing I'd recommend is what someone else suggest on this forum - don't let players say "pot." Make them state the amount they're betting and challenge them if you think their bet is more than what's in the pot.

 

[CrazyEddie]

I'm this environment, I would do a bunch of back raising pre.... Which would probably make the pots bigger.

Pot Limit can certainly grow pots, but it takes two to tango, which seems fine.

 

[detroitdad]

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For the record. My "NO" was for any form of Hold'em

 

[xdukeluvax]

I always liked how the PokerStars tv show “The Big Game” from quite a while back was pot limit preflop and no limit post flop, and I’ve always been sort of surprised that it didn’t catch on.

Thats exactly what i was watching that made me post this thread lol

 

[MatB]

I play in a small online group with some fish.

Certain nights are limited to a dealers choice of pot limit games and NLHE

Kind of bugs me as we are playing pot limit for most of the night then some donkey fishtard calls NLHE and can push whole stack in pre.

Seems weird.

I asked if we could make the NLHE. Pot limit instead. But was met with much agape mouths and wide eyed stares blankly contemplating their next cup of black coffee.

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

I play in a small online group with some fish.

Certain nights are limited to a dealers choice of pot limit games and NLHE

Kind of bugs me as we are playing pot limit for most of the night then some donkey fishtard calls NLHE and can push whole stack in pre.

Seems weird.

I asked if we could make the NLHE. Pot limit instead. But was met with much agape mouths and wide eyed stares blankly contemplating their next cup of black coffee.

What does it matter? You lose your money on 4 streets instead of 1.

 

[MatB]

This is true.

But still why not PL Holdem ?

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

This is true.

But still why not PL Holdem ?

Because if you insist on playing 47o I wanna make you pay as much as possible pre

 

[MatB]

Ok so maybe the strategy changes with pre flop action.

Standard open for AA very different when you can only pot

Fair enough. Carry on

 

[MatB]

I’ll stay in my bowl

 

[CrazyEddie]

The real question is "why are games like Omaha not no-limit?" - And the answer is that in Omaha and other circus games, equities run so close even on later streets that the correct play is almost always for whoever is ahead to bet everything and for whoever is behind to call. Playing it Pot Limit is necessary to turn it into a multi-street game of poker instead of a coin flip at the earliest possible opportunity. In a way, playing Omaha PL is like playing Hold'em (or anything else) Fixed Limit - if you're ahead, you bet as much as you can, i.e. as much as the limit allows, and if you're behind, you call because you have the odds to call because the limit was small enough to prevent the bettor from pricing you out of your draw.

Whereas in Hold'em, equities on made-hands-vs-draw scenarios are thick enough to allow for meaningful bets but thin enough that the correct bet size is usually a fraction of the pot rather than a multiple of the pot. That makes playing No Limit Hold'em a viable and interesting prospect; betting All In with a multiple of the pot is possible but it's reserved for specific situations, whereas in No Limit Omaha betting All In with a multiple of the pot would be a routine occurrence.

 

[LeLe]

It good to explore out different game beside NLH, my group have tried out a few different game like PLO 2-7 triple draw Short deck Holden etc

And the Short deck stayed as my monthly game choice while the NLH are still my bread and butter main home game