RFID chips: what do you think about? (2 Viewers)

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I'm involved in RFID chips manufacturing and RFID casino systems development. Can I ask you what do you all think about RFID chips?
 
Welcome to the forum!

My guess is that they're mostly not of interest to the members of this forum. We're all hobbyists and collectors here, mostly looking for playable sets of high-quality chips to use in our home games. I doubt anyone is interested in putting in RFID readers for their home game.

... that said, there might be a few members who do have a use for RFID chips. I'd be very interested to hear what they have to say.
 
Welcome!

I'm going to assume you've not read through much of the forums; We have members that like to farm poker chips from casinos, we have a very health thread around Ethics and technicalities of this. RFID seem like it would be an expense that wouldn't pay off.

Most Casinos don't mind if you take the chips indefinitely. I could see as means of validation / security putting them in higher denom chips for them.

From a home (underground) perspective, there is one thing I would absolutely LOVE about RFID chips, PLO! pot limit games in general would benefit greatly from it. It would require an App, but being able to see how much each player has put into the pot, and the calculation of the current pot size bet LIVE! Oh Lordy hold my handbag!!

Look at your phone for betting history during the hand live?! Augmented reality is on its way, How kewl would it be to see floating chip counts over opponents' chip stacks, and over the pot!

Do you have a ball park estimate for a cost model, how would you market this community? How are you going to compete with people who have 100 USD per chip racks to use in their game? I'm guessing you would just not be able to compete for this member's business.

Would you sell the technology to other chip vendors, or would you want to become a competitor, offering chips to the home market? Do you have any Casinos as customers, how would / do they perceive your venture?

RFIDs for chips in a home game, yes please!
But ... if your reader can be hacked and used with cards, it would be an issue, what security features do you offer for this type of cross over?
 
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I'm sure that there are many casinos using RFID security for their highest cash value checks, probably mostly $5000 and up.
Most people on the forum probably don't play in stakes where the expense of RFID chips and tables are cost-effective or required for security.

But you'll always have an exception now and then....
 
Welcome. I am interested in getting RFID chips. I want to build a craps table to track how the chips move on a table and how other player's strategy goes up against natural rolls vs simulations. Lots of my friends are too also interested in tracking their bets. Also I think it would make managing their accounts a lot easier. I am unfortunately looking for at least 6k+ chips so if their is a way to get them cheaper for such large bulk that would be great.
 
Thank you for your answers. I certainly imagine that for home and private gaming, RFID technology applications are security and tracking features that can be of very low interest.
 
Welcome. I am interested in getting RFID chips. I want to build a craps table to track how the chips move on a table and how other player's strategy goes up against natural rolls vs simulations. Lots of my friends are too also interested in tracking their bets. Also I think it would make managing their accounts a lot easier. I am unfortunately looking for at least 6k+ chips so if their is a way to get them cheaper for such large bulk that would be great.
Thank you for commenting my post. At the moment my R&D department colleagues developed RFID technology and designed RFID devices to track chips and bets on blackjack, mini-baccarat, poker and roulette tables. Regarding craps table there is an issue due to the dimensions of the craps table itself. The RFID chip float tray for craps table isn't a problem, we got it, the challenge is to develop RFID sensors that cover all the betting surface of the craps table.
 
Regarding craps table there is an issue due to the dimensions of the craps table itself. The RFID chip float tray for craps table isn't a problem, we got it, the challenge is to develop RFID sensors that cover all the betting surface of the craps table.

Ya I figured this might be a problem. But I am hoping to do try something. I am sure the some of the most complexity is with the box numbers and trying differentiate the come, place, & buy bets plus all their don't variations. Let me know if your company gets any further with RFID on a craps table. Otherwise I am going to try when I get free time.
 
The one upside to RFID chips would be getting instant counts on stacks for all in or cash out purposes. Not sure how practical that would be for the home market.

I know RFID cards and tables are already a widespread application to assist with video production. Getting that to a lower price point than present options may be of interest.
 
I'm assuming it costs a lot and would not be worth it for a home game, but man would it be cool to have RFID chips in order to know the exact count in the pot for pot limit games, splitting pots, and cashing out.
 
I'm involved in RFID chips manufacturing and RFID casino systems development. Can I ask you what do you all think about RFID chips?
Great for club and casino but unnecessary for private use.
You work for Abiatti or GPI?
 
Great for club and casino but unnecessary for private use.
You work for Abiatti or GPI?
I agree RFID is unnecessary for home games, unless someone wish to automatically count POT size and/or real time individual player's chip count.
No, I'm not working for GPI (now is ANGEL), nor for Abbiati. I have my own company.

Ya I figured this might be a problem. But I am hoping to do try something. I am sure the some of the most complexity is with the box numbers and trying differentiate the come, place, & buy bets plus all their don't variations. Let me know if your company gets any further with RFID on a craps table. Otherwise I am going to try when I get free time.
Sure! I'll keep you posted in case my RFID expert engineers that work at our R&D department will find out a solution to track chips on craps table layout

I'm assuming it costs a lot and would not be worth it for a home game, but man would it be cool to have RFID chips in order to know the exact count in the pot for pot limit games, splitting pots, and cashing out.
Absolutely, we have a ready to use solution for casinos' poker rooms and card rooms for all applications you mentioned
 
Sounds really cool! I imagine the cost would outweigh the benefit for most. I think you would have to run at minimum a weekly home game with pretty high stakes to make it worth it to most people that would use it in a home game setting. Casinos though, and live streams especially, could probably cut down on additional manpower costs (because I hear the people that overlay those live graphics are inputting them through an iPad or similar device in a control room), and it would probably reduce errors a lot!
 
Sounds really cool! I imagine the cost would outweigh the benefit for most. I think you would have to run at minimum a weekly home game with pretty high stakes to make it worth it to most people that would use it in a home game setting. Casinos though, and live streams especially, could probably cut down on additional manpower costs (because I hear the people that overlay those live graphics are inputting them through an iPad or similar device in a control room), and it would probably reduce errors a lot!
Yes, you're absolutely right! RFID poker chips and RFID poker systems enable fast (it takes one second), accurate, automated and real time chip counts for POT size, and player's stacks, eliminating human errors due to manual counts. More, all graphics are automatically compiled and overlayed on the video images for live streaming broadcasting, avoiding expensive manual data input, at nearly zero cost.
 
The one upside to RFID chips would be getting instant counts on stacks for all in or cash out purposes. Not sure how practical that would be for the home market.

I know RFID cards and tables are already a widespread application to assist with video production. Getting that to a lower price point than present options may be of interest.
Yeah, RFID technology would allow a home poker host to get too drunk to count chips, and still not screw things up. There's definitely some value in that. And I'm not even kidding. At the end of the night, everybody is tired and many people are at least half-drunk - and yet that is when they have the most chips to count, at the most important time.
 
I'm very interested in RFID chips for home game use. I built a RFID enabled poker table more than 10 years ago and the whole setup was pretty sweet except that the cards with RFID tags at that time was really bulky. RFID enabled chips could speed up the game and avoid dealer mistakes.
 
Hi Marco,

Thanks for the intersting thread.

On average, how much extra would a chip cost with RFID for an average joe like me?

May you find success in your business.
 
Matsui chips have RFID as extra option.
Dear Pinball,

Your notion is much appreciated. This might be the product vendor for a captivating set to indulge my home with.

If you absolutely have to - would you divvy your esteemed choice in this product line?

Regards,
Csabeeboy
 
I am a huge fan of Matsui poker chips. I like their colors esp. of ABS. The dealing with matsuieurope.com is absolutely great! price per chip is much less than CPC. Negativ is the for some players the chips are slippery and they are plastic.
 
Marco - thank you for the information presented thus far. I am interested to know more about RFID solutions your company can offer around poker (RFID chips & cards). Please DM me on how to get in touch with you. Thank you
 

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