Rate this inlay - President Casino New Yorker (PNY)

Rate this inlay 1 to 5, with 5 being the best.


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Should we consider just the fact that it’s a grand inlay in our ranking? Or are we to rate how well executed the inlay is, given that it had to be grand?
 

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If these were thc they would be my favorite set. I like these a lot and own a set but the giant inlay made me vote 3.
 

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The PNY designs are nothing short of magnificent and perfect.

The chips are *exactly* how you execute a theme. Keep in mind PNY would've been the first legal casino in New York City *ever*, and the first city casino (legal or illegal) accessible to a non-connected joe in a long time. It can't be overstated how different gambling and poker in NYC would be had Giuliani just let 'em open. Sure they're grand inlays, but for a casino that would've revolved around a New York theme, putting landmarks on it was a grand slam. The Pell Street $20 is one of my favorite chips ever made, and obviously hindsight makes the $500 a sentimental favorite.

The fact that I'm a born and bred New Yorker has no influence on any of this, I swear.
 

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The PNY designs are nothing short of magnificent and perfect.

The chips are *exactly* how you execute a theme. Keep in mind PNY would've been the first legal casino in New York City *ever*, and the first city casino (legal or illegal) accessible to a non-connected joe in a long time. It can't be understated how different gambling and poker in NYC would be had Giuliani just let 'em open. Sure they're grand inlays, but for a casino that would've revolved around a New York theme, putting landmarks on it was a grand slam. The Pell Street $20 is one of my favorite chips ever made, and obviously hindsight makes the $500 a sentimental favorite.

The fact that I'm a born and bred New Yorker has no influence on any of this, I swear.
Yeah, I’m a native new yorker, and I hate it, so there’s no bias at all. God I would’ve loved an NYC casino though.
 

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The PNY designs are nothing short of magnificent and perfect.

The chips are *exactly* how you execute a theme. Keep in mind PNY would've been the first legal casino in New York City *ever*, and the first city casino (legal or illegal) accessible to a non-connected joe in a long time. It can't be overstated how different gambling and poker in NYC would be had Giuliani just let 'em open. Sure they're grand inlays, but for a casino that would've revolved around a New York theme, putting landmarks on it was a grand slam. The Pell Street $20 is one of my favorite chips ever made, and obviously hindsight makes the $500 a sentimental favorite.

The fact that I'm a born and bred New Yorker has no influence on any of this, I swear.

When there was an announcement of a casino in Queens at the Aqueduct Racetrack I was like hell yea. Then they said it was was slot machines only and I was like hell nah
 

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Then they said it was was slot machines only
Not for long, friend. Not to derail this thread, but the Queens racino is owned by Malaysian gaming interests who only got into it with the idea of turning into a full Class III gaming casino. They started building a hotel before COVID hit, allegedly for JFK travelers, but the area doesn't need another 400-room hotel with presidential suites and whatnot. The JFK claim was BS then and it's BS now. They started building it because they expected to go full-fledged casino sooner rather than later, and COVID did nothing but expedite that inevitability. The City and state have been hemorrhaging money, it's bound to happen.
 

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oversize inlays? check
photo inlays? check
erratic, inconsistent denomination placement? check
RHC mold? check

Four strikes, so yep, it's a 1. Only because 0 isn't a choice. :tdown:

These chips are a total waste of otherwise perfectly good clay. :vomit:
 

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I’ve lived here for 25 years. The PNYs were my first true ‘love’ and was super excited when I completed a playable set. After a while I began to truly despise it... am still a NYer and will probably be here for another 25 years ... and might some day design a NY-themed label for my personal set, but would give the PNY set a 2 and the label design a 1.
 

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oversize inlays? check
photo inlays? check
erratic, inconsistent denomination placement? check
RHC mold? check

Four strikes, so yep, it's a 1. Only because 0 isn't a choice. :tdown:

These chips are a total waste of otherwise perfectly good clay. :vomit:
Can somebody give me an explanation as to why grand inlays are substantively worse than regular inlays? Is it simply a design preference? Maybe it's because all of Mohegan Sun's chips have oversized inlays, but I've never once looked at a grand inlay and thought "let me vomit to get this terrible taste out of my mouth," which is what most people on this forum seem to think haha
 

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Can somebody give me an explanation as to why grand inlays are substantively worse than regular inlays? Is it simply a design preference? Maybe it's because all of Mohegan Sun's chips have oversized inlays, but I've never once looked at a grand inlay and thought "let me vomit to get this terrible taste out of my mouth," which is what most people on this forum seem to think haha
For those of us who are mold guys, RHC is already inferior in terms of feel. When you take even more surface area away with an oversized inlay, it negatively impacts feel further.
 

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For those of us who are mold guys, RHC is already inferior in terms of feel. When you take even more surface area away with an oversized inlay, it negatively impacts feel further.
Beyond the the feel and playability issues, oversize inlays also negatively affect the looks of clay chips by covering and hiding the base and edge spot colors and shapes.
 

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playability issues
Totally lost me there. I can understand the oversized inlay might affect feel and aesthetics, I've never paid attention to how they feel vs any other chips. But I've never had any issues playing with oversized inlays. Outside a handful of one-off Bud Jones commemoratives from 15 years ago, every single Mohegan Sun chip has had an oversized inlay and Mohegan is where I made my bones. I've never had problems stacking or shuffling or anything like that.

I'm going to take your word for it since you clearly know what you're talking about, but I am genuinely finding it hard to grasp that the inlay size affects how the chips actually play. Can it be that your issue are more with RHC than the inlay, especially since the inlay is inseparable from RHC?
 

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I am genuinely finding it hard to grasp that the inlay size affects how the chips actually play.
Generally speaking, chips with larger inlays have less clay-to-clay surface contact area than those with smaller inlays, and suffer from reduced chip-to-chip friction because of it -- essentially making them slicker, harder to handle, and less stable in stacks.

Mold type typically doesn't matter, but can make it worse.
 

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Generally speaking, chips with larger inlays have less clay-to-clay surface contact area than those with smaller inlays, and suffer from reduced chip-to-chip friction because of it -- essentially making them slicker, harder to handle, and less stable in stacks.

Mold type typically doesn't matter, but can make it worse.
Guess I've just always had too short a stack to notice :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Thanks for the clarification, I really appreciate it. I factored in that that the inlay was pressed into the chip not applied like a label, but failed to consider there's literally less chip.
 

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These polls have been great and it’s really interesting to see all the thoughts from everyone. I’m genuinely surprised by the feedback on the PNY set, though. I always just assumed this was a set beloved by most!
 
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