Quality Bourgogne et Grasset (B&G) look/feel-alikes? (2 Viewers)

[torarnv]

I had a chance to play with some B&G heavy chips while visiting Holland Casino many years back, and really like the heavy weight, and quality plastic feel of those chips.

I've seen there are some sales now and then of actual B&G chips from various European casinos that have shut down (e.g. here), but they are unfortunately out of my price range for now

Does anyone know of look-alike chips that have a similar weight and feel, but for for a lower price point, while I wait to build up the nerve to go for a full B&G set?

 

[kaimat]

I have some weighted Bud Jones chips if you are looking for a tournament set

 

[torarnv]

Interesting. How do they feel compared to the B&G ones? I have a Stardust $1 like this one and the plastic feels much smoother on that one, compared to the more "rubbery" plastic feel of the B&Gs, but perhaps there are different variants of Bud Jones?

 

[torarnv]

I found this overview of Bud Jones types, but I don't see the one I have with the metal inlay.

 

[allforcharity]

Abbiati and Matsui are options as well. Matsui usually slightly cheaper of the two. But overall, still not exactly cheap.

 

[GianThaMan]

Does anyone know of look-alike chips that have a similar weight and feel, but for for a lower price point, while I wait to build up the nerve to go for a full B&G set?

There's an abundance of similar-looking or feeling chips, but none that are really the same in both aspects, at least not at a price any lower than the cheaper B&G sets already go for.

I'd recommend looking for some of the cheaper B&G chips you can find. The ones you've linked are a pretty good value for what you get, perhaps a bit high. B&G in general are also cheaper than Bud Jones, Abbiati, and Matsui usually go for anyway, and I personally prefer their feel over the others.

I found this overview of Bud Jones types, but I don't see the one I have with the metal inlay.

The coin inlay ones are typically V6.

I wouldn't say any Bud Jones styles are really similar to B&G chips. And Matsui definitely aren't.

Abbiati are somewhat close but still not exact, and are typically pricier than B&G sell for here. However, they do have a nice "rubbery" feel that is perhaps even a bit more pronounced than that of B&G chips, if that's what you'd like. They're just significantly pricier than you'd probably like to spend if the ~50c/chip B&G are out of your price range. They're also a few grams lighter.

 

[CrazyEddie]

You might be able to find some mass-market plastics that, while not being quite like B&Gs, may still feel good to you. Mass markets are usually weighted with metal inserts ("slugs"), which is also what makes the B&Gs feel so heavy. The differences are a matter of the quality of the plastic, the details of the mold designs, and the quality of the finishing process (grinding, polishing, etc).

It used to be that "dice chips" were about the only option among mass market plastics, but there's lately been a huge variety. You're no longer restricted to the plain undenominated designs of dice chips, and some of the mass markets are made with plastics that feel pretty nice.

Get samples before you buy anything to find out what it is that you really like, and what you might consider an acceptable substitute.

 

[Quicksilver-75]

Wasn't someone here selling those Russian sets? Crystal something?

 

[mipevi]

Nothing else is exactly like BG chips, though Abbiati would be closest IMO (get samples to decide for yourself). Cheap Chinese stuff does not retain its value well, so I would just save the money for a proper set. Most people starting out overestimate the amount of chips needed, so figuring out the necessary set breakdown may help with your budget.

You can’t realistically hope to get a set of high end chips cheaper than ~$0.50 ea. unless they’re discovered secondhand off-forum. The current market environment is very favorable for us who love plastic chips though, and BG chips can be had for very good prices compared to high end clays. There is a caveat regarding BG chips from French casinos/cardrooms though, as there are a lot of French chipping enthusiast and the demand for such chips has seemingly driven those prices up. You may find reasonably priced Abbiati chips as well, excluding the Park Place and The Crown Plaza lines as they were group-buys directly from the manufacturer and we paid premium, but former casino used Abbiatis should demand a lesser price.

 

[torarnv]

Thanks all of you! Very enlightening information

 

[lapincretin]

B&G, Bud Jone, Matsui etc.. is really ideal for the regular cash game because it doesn't wear out at all over time.

My preference to B&G with its bronze alloy insert because it stacks really well and it's very pleasant to play (a usual question I think). As it's a chips for Casino cash not easy to set up a tournament set with, I succeeded with Russian B&G for a mixed set and I supplemented with B&G plaques for high value and it's ok for me, but generally the B&G will be more for the cash game. You have to find the right colors and spots, really not easy it's often basic and not very pretty. I like the Bud to but hard to find in Europe, and Matsui where you can order custom but not all types of chips.

PS : Now with the RFID chip new B&G are 10grs and there is no more bronze insert, when there is no RFID (on the small values 1 and 2 ...) they put a plastic insert to stay on 10/11grs and it changes the quality of the chips a little I think.

For the tournaments of the Casinos of Europe the abbiati of the type bud jones (Suited) and the B&G are identical, I think that that under deals together, it's the same chips, but one never finds B&G 14grs for the set of tournaments, it's a cash chip ..................

 

[CraigT78]

This thread is useless without pictures.

 

[lapincretin]

There is not everything here I have many other B&G chips (I will replacing the LT prim with secondary) and Plaques, but it is the basis for the my B&G tournament 1/2 tables homegame, T2000 / T5000 or more. I like B&G like candy.