Prepping for Vegas - Bankroll Challenge (4 Viewers)

[Perthmike]

Just constant updates are fine.

I've never been to Vegas myself. One day, i'm sure. Id love to play some big event there.

Well the wsop big 50 is starting on 30th May.
@kmccormick100 and @DoubleEagle are going to be doing it and I’ve got half a mind to try it out.

Plus I owe you many many beers still, what better time to plan a Vegas trip.

 

[ovo]

don't forget to visit @Spinettis Gaming with that bankroll

 

[MatB]

Well the wsop big 50 is starting on 30th May.
@kmccormick100 and @DoubleEagle are going to be doing it and I’ve got half a mind to try it out.

Plus I owe you many many beers still, what better time to plan a Vegas trip.

I'm lightweight home game player. There will be a trip. Just not this year

OOhh yes the beer credits ! i forgot about those.

 

[moose]

Conversation will go like this:

Where you headed?

Vegas

Purpose?

Gambling vacation

How long?

A week

How much cash are you carrying?

5000usd

Have a good time.

 

[Perthmike]

@moose i took your advice and downloaded myVEGAS. I’ve been busily accruing coins the last few days.

 

[Darson]

Travelers entering the United States may take as much money as they wish into the country. You may bring up to $10,000 in currency, coin and specific monetary instruments without reporting it to customs. If you bring more than $10,000 into the country, notify this to customs

America is happy for you to bring as much money as you like into the country, especially if you're going to Vegas.

 

[weak]

Fun read. Gl in Vegas and have a great time!

 

[DerberAlter]

don't forget to visit @Spinettis Gaming with that bankroll

Do you need to pay import fees on poker chips if you harvested them in vegas? let's say for 5 racks

 

[Perthmike]

Do you need to pay import fees on poker chips if you harvested them in vegas? let's say for 5 racks

That would depend on your own country’s import laws. But yes I’d imagine you are “supposed” to declare the value.

 

[krafticus]

@moose i took your advice and downloaded myVEGAS. I’ve been busily accruing coins the last few days.

Are those transferrable? I've got so many points on that, but am not headed to Vegas ... maybe ever .. again

 

[Payback]

Are those transferrable? I've got so many points on that, but am not headed to Vegas ... maybe ever .. again

Unfortunately not . You can use them at other places outside Vegas though like Borgata, MGM National Harbor, Beau Rivage, Gold Strike, and others.

 

[p5woody]

Unfortunately not . You can use them at other places outside Vegas though like Borgata, MGM National Harbor, Beau Rivage, Gold Strike, and others.

I have also used them for a cruise on Royal Caribbean, saved a few hundred dollars.

 

[Perthmike]

Are those transferrable? I've got so many points on that, but am not headed to Vegas ... maybe ever .. again

Yeah as @Payback says there’s definitely a few other places you will be able to use them.l closer to you.

 

[kmccormick100]

I totally forgot that I had this thread, but it’s time for an update.

@Lemonzest @200 Motels were right and the $ goal was a bad one. So it’s an hours played goal from here on out.

After starting this I went on to have an even worse downswing than before and lost $2900 over a 4 week period. Definitely a lot of serious run bad in there (including losing with a 2 card straight flush, and getting multiple lots of kk and aa cracked for large all-in pre flop pots) but also some bad play mixed in there too.

The bankroll went from $11,500 down to a bottom of $8800. I took some time to study some more, chatted a bunch with some of the good players at my local casino and I think ive made the necessary adjustments to plug a few of my leaks and hopefully continue to improve as I lead into the Vegas trip.

I just signed up for crush live poker, since my upswing subscription ran out.

I’ve been playing well for the last few sessions again and have clawed back to $10,100 bankroll after 4 winning sessions in a row.

I even managed a hero call yesterday, which I don’t get to do too often as there aren’t many thinking players or anyone that bluffs much at my local.

Utg opened to $20, 2 calls and I closed the action with 22 in the Bb. $81 in the pot.
Flop qq8 rainbow, checked around,
Turn 6, checked around.
River 3, utg bet $45, 2 other players folded and I thought about it for a bit and called. He announced ace high and I showed my pocket twos much to his surprise.

Final hand of my session yesterday night was amazing. I was meant to leave, but the rapper nelly was apparently turning up to play $25/$25 plo so I hung around for a bit longer.

I called a $6 straddle in the big blind with offsuit and it checked to the flop of , which was pretty favourable.

I checked, straddler bet $30, I min-clicked him and he 4 bet to $200 so I jammed for about another $160 and he called. I showed my hand, he opted not to. Turn was a , but I expected his likely holdings with that action are sets and occasionally 2 pair. He’s not the type to be playing draws that way.

River blank and he mucked.

Nelly never did show up, but I thank him nonetheless.

$10,100 and counting. 14 weeks to Vegas

I strongly recommend CLP, upswing is good for a technically sound and relatively gto foundation, but CLP is outstanding for live play and exploitatively adjusting to real players in small stakes. Their intro curriculum videos are great and I recommend listening to the CLP podcast as frequently as possible and trying to get through the archives, Bart’s made a night and day difference in my game.

I’m getting so excited for Vegas, looking forward to meeting up with you and hoping for some better action games this year.

 

[Perthmike]

Got in the casino the end of last week and ended up stacking off with qq against a couple of crazy players whilst taking a shot at 5/5.

I leveled myself into calling on a 7,8,9 flop and of course was up against j,10, dumbass move, it was an easy laydown. Waste of $400.

Back in today and it’s going well so far. I started the hand with about $580 at $1/$3 and a Friend of mine who’s a very solid winning player bet $20 utg and got 3 callers. I raised to $85 with A in the big blind. My friend actually folded qq and I get called in one spot by a guy with about $110 left.

Flop . I jammed got called and spike an ace on the turn and took it down.

My sizing might have been too small on the flop. And I’m not sure if I should be jamming the flop, but it worked. Thoughts?

 

[detroitdad]

Back in today and it’s going well so far. I started the hand with about $580 at $1/$3 and a Friend of mine who’s a very solid winning player bet $20 utg and got 3 callers. I raised to $85 with A in the big blind. My friend actually folded qq and I get called in one spot by a guy with about $110 left.

I think the re raise was too small. For some reason a $120 raise feels right.

 

[Perthmike]

I think the re raise was too small. For some reason a $120 raise feels right.

I agree. I was thinking that right after I did it.

 

[detroitdad]

Don’t worry some of the bankroll went through this transformation.
It’s a liquid asset so it still counts as bankroll.

If were counting chipsets as part of our bankroll then I'm fricken loaded!!! lol

 

[Perthmike]

If were counting chipsets as part of our bankroll then I'm fricken loaded!!! lol

Hahahahaha it’s only part of it. The ones I’d consider selling if I really had to.

Oh and happy birthday.

 

[detroitdad]

Hahahahaha it’s only part of it. The ones I’d consider selling if I really had to.

Oh and happy birthday.

Thanks. I'm working today. I dis start the day with a good swim. I don't have a work full schedule so that is nice. I'll hit lunch with a colleague. I might meet my oldest daughter for a bourbon after work. Then head home to play with the Grand Sons. Solid over all day to start a great weekend!

 

[Perthmike]

Quick update. I suck at poker and the downswing has continued. I went down to $8800, got back to $10,100 and have since gone on a diabolically bad run and absolutely torched the bankroll, which now stands at only $7700 (of which about $3800, I’ve tied up in chips).

I’m contemplating stopping any further play and only starting again when I get to Vegas. If I lose anymore it puts my trip in a bit of jeopardy.

Besides, I’m hating playing at the moment anyway. I’ve lost the last 4-5 times I’ve had AA and KK, and I think I’m legitimately at about 11-14 missed flops in a row with AJ, AQ and AK.

I just go hours on end raising pre-flop then folding flop or calling one bet and then folding. Eventually I get annoyed and overplay something later in the session and get called and lose. I did finally get a boat yesterday, but it was a chopped pot.

 

[realcdn]

Quick update. I suck at poker and the downswing has continued. I went down to $8800, got back to $10,100 and have since gone on a diabolically bad run and absolutely torched the bankroll, which now stands at only $7700 (of which about $3800, I’ve tied up in chips).

I’m contemplating stopping any further play and only starting again when I get to Vegas. If I lose anymore it puts my trip in a bit of jeopardy.

Besides, I’m hating playing at the moment anyway. I’ve lost the last 4-5 times I’ve had AA and KK, and I think I’m legitimately at about 11-14 missed flops in a row with AJ, AQ and AK.

I just go hours on end raising pre-flop then folding flop or calling one bet and then folding. Eventually I get annoyed and overplay something later in the session and get called and lose. I did finally get a boat yesterday, but it was a chopped pot.

Sorry to hear that man. I would do exactly as you are suggesting and take a break from poker until Vegas. I’m sure with a clear mind and a change of scenery, you’ll clean house on the Vegas fish.

 

[Jordan Downs]

Wow, tough hit @Perthmike , keep your spirits up, you've proven you can beat 1/3, hopefully in Vegas you'll start a Massive Heater Sesh and slay'em on the tables.

Great read, love the updates and GL, I'm rooting for you

 

[APatHand]

Quick update. I suck at poker and the downswing has continued. I went down to $8800, got back to $10,100 and have since gone on a diabolically bad run and absolutely torched the bankroll, which now stands at only $7700 (of which about $3800, I’ve tied up in chips).

I’m contemplating stopping any further play and only starting again when I get to Vegas. If I lose anymore it puts my trip in a bit of jeopardy.

Besides, I’m hating playing at the moment anyway. I’ve lost the last 4-5 times I’ve had AA and KK, and I think I’m legitimately at about 11-14 missed flops in a row with AJ, AQ and AK.

I just go hours on end raising pre-flop then folding flop or calling one bet and then folding. Eventually I get annoyed and overplay something later in the session and get called and lose. I did finally get a boat yesterday, but it was a chopped pot.

Just remember that it is OK to play your best all the time. When you aren't connecting someone else is and you can't force a change in that outcome.
Money not lost has the same value as money won.

 

[Rhodeman77]

Quick update. I suck at poker and the downswing has continued. I went down to $8800, got back to $10,100 and have since gone on a diabolically bad run and absolutely torched the bankroll, which now stands at only $7700 (of which about $3800, I’ve tied up in chips).

I’m contemplating stopping any further play and only starting again when I get to Vegas. If I lose anymore it puts my trip in a bit of jeopardy.

Besides, I’m hating playing at the moment anyway. I’ve lost the last 4-5 times I’ve had AA and KK, and I think I’m legitimately at about 11-14 missed flops in a row with AJ, AQ and AK.

I just go hours on end raising pre-flop then folding flop or calling one bet and then folding. Eventually I get annoyed and overplay something later in the session and get called and lose. I did finally get a boat yesterday, but it was a chopped pot.

Play PLO, you make big hands all the time!
Patience is one of the most important factors to playing Hold’em. Most sessions boil down to 2-3 key hands. Taking a break is a good idea if you realize you are losing your cool.

One of my biggest advantages at the table is how little I go on tilt. If you feel it coming on take a walk for a few orbits. Get some fresh air or cash out. The game will be there when you are in the right mindset to play again.

 

[Perthmike]

Play PLO, you make big hands all the time!
Patience is one of the most important factors to playing Hold’em. Most sessions boil down to 2-3 key hands. Taking a break is a good idea if you realize you are losing your cool.

One of my biggest advantages at the table is how little I go on tilt. If you feel it coming on take a walk for a few orbits. Get some fresh air or cash out. The game will be there when you are in the right mindset to play again.

PLO games hardly run in Perth and when they do they are deeper than I’m used to and very splashy. It would be too big for my roll, especially now that I’ve torched it.

I’m usually very disciplined but I’m just so pissed off from losing I can’t help myself as I get later into a session at the moment.

I took a 2 week break before last week and promptly got the aces cracked by that runner runner king against kq offsuit. Granted, I could have done some things differently in that hand, you don’t expect runner runner like that.

I’m going to take another week off and try to put in one last session next Friday night and see what happens. If it goes well, I’ll keep playing, if I lose then I’m definitely shutting t down before my trip.

I’ve got a few chips that I can sell off to raise some extra funds to top up the Vegas roll, so it’s not the end of the world.

Here’s the session list.

 

[Rhodeman77]

That is a tough stretch. Like I said in the PM I don’t like slow playing 1 pair hands. You are inviting disaster. Better to win a small pot than lose a big one because you gave a free card to a hand that could beat you.

 

[Perthmike]

That is a tough stretch. Like I said in the PM I don’t like slow playing 1 pair hands. You are inviting disaster. Better to win a small pot than lose a big one because you gave a free card to a hand that could beat you.

Yeah I regret doing that lol. Don’t worry I’m completely back to basics now, the way the games seem to be playing at the minute I’m all about value betting everything and minimising my bluffs.

 

[kmccormick100]

Curious what the structure is out there? $1/3
$300 cap? Variance is definitely real, especially in 100bb capped games. I had about a $4k downswing last year playing nothing bigger than $1/3, took 7 months to pull out of it, I’m back to almost break even now, but that was bolstered by some deep loose $1/3 games that played like $2/5 or $5/5

 

[Perthmike]

Curious what the structure is out there? $1/3
$300 cap? Variance is definitely real, especially in 100bb capped games. I had about a $4k downswing last year playing nothing bigger than $1/3, took 7 months to pull out of it, I’m back to almost break even now, but that was bolstered by some deep loose $1/3 games that played like $2/5 or $5/5

$1/$3 $300 cap is exactly what I play. It just seems to be getting weird recently. People are usually loose passive and very straightforward, which makes it easier to play fairly aggressively and fold when played back at.

I seem to be running into really strange slow played hands a lot that make zero sense. It’s like players have changed and are playing weirdly overall, but I can’t figure out how to respond to it, other than playing super tight (which I am, but it’s just corresponding with a bad run of cards too).

Like you say, I’ll drag myself out of it in the end, it’s just bad timing with the trip coming up.