SOLD Pre-UPCC new KEM setup Blackjack index (1 Viewer)

[upNdown]

i got these from @Sparty (and he's got the right of refusal on these as far as I'm concerned, but I haven't heard back from him yet.) He mentioned in his evolution thread that he bought these many years ago - 2004? - but never used them. I figured I had to check out some pre-US Playing Card Company KEMs for myself, and he was willing to sell, so there you go.
Problem is, they're standard index, which drive me insane. They're also poker size, FYI.
Looks to me like the black deck has never been touched, so I didn't touch it. The green deck is still in its plastic, but had been shuffled, so I took them out and gave them a riffle. They feel great. Too bad they're not for me. They'll make somebody happy. They seem mint to me. As you can see from the pictures, there's no warping at all. Asking what I paid - $44 plus shipping.
NOW $40 SHIPPED CONUS
NOW $35 SHIPPED CONUS PPFF

 

[Sparty]

These are great! I say someone else should have them. My regulars would never have appreciated them, so I never used them!!

 

[justsomedude]

Are you sure these are 2004? The ace of spades date code indicates these were made in 2011.

 

[upNdown]

Are you sure these are 2004? The ace of spades date code indicates these were made in 2011.

No, I'm absolutely not. I was guessing on the date - I was told they were purchased 17 years ago.
Maybe some estimates have been wrong.
I assumed that since they didn't say USPCC on the ace of spades, that they had to be that old. I welcome feedback, and I'll throw a question mark in the subject line.

 

[David O]

From what I understand If the cards are Pre USPC then the Ace of Spades will read "KEM Plastic Playing Cards, Inc." If not they read "The U.S. Playing Card Co"

For Pre USPC KEM's the letter at the front of the code signifies the year. A=1998, B=1999, C=2000, and D=2001 and the numbers that follow signify month and day. So your decks would be from 1999 - B=1999

 

[David O]

One question I have is why the Ace has four pips and the rest do not.

 

[justsomedude]

Ah... I read somewhere that the number codes were month and year on Kems... 111 = January 2011? I guess my info is wrong. Sorry guys.

 

[justsomedude]

Is this info wrong?

http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=6594.0

 

[justsomedude]

Ok, so... I just found this on eBay...

UPDATE: It has been brought to my attention that, since US Playing Card Co. purchased Kem (2004) the date codes have changed slightly. Some of the decks printed used a letter + number to indicate the year printed: A=1998, B=1999, C=2000, and D=2001. For example, if the deck has "A12", that deck was printed in December of 1998. Subsequent years use the same month/date code as the older, pre-USPC decks: "202"= February, 2002, etc.

But that doesn't explain a letter with a three digit code. Now I'm really confused. What the hell is B111???

 

[David O]

Is this info wrong?

http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=6594.0

I think that applies to a date code with no Letter. Ib the pre USPC if the date code has a letter the letter stands for the year in all of what I have read.

 

[David O]

just found this so try this page as well

http://www.ebay.com/gds/Vintage-Kem-card-dates-/10000000000964173/g.html

edit - looks like you found it

 

[justsomedude]

just found this so try this page as well

http://www.ebay.com/gds/Vintage-Kem-card-dates-/10000000000964173/g.html

edit - looks like you found it

Yea... that write up just creates more questions than answers. This seems to be a very unique code. I'm wondering if anyone can provide some clarification....

 

[upNdown]

One question I have is why the Ace has four pips and the rest do not.

I'll take some more pictures in a few.

 

[Tommy]

I bought these in early 2000. My Ace of spades has a phone number. Just call and ask.

 

[Tommy]

One question I have is why the Ace has four pips and the rest do not.

These look like BJ cards. All the 10 cards and A pips are printed higher for the peeker.

 

[David O]

That was I saw but I cannot remember if BJ cards have 4 pips on the Ace only.

 

[upNdown]

 

[David O]

Definitely Black Jack Cards and nice cards!

 

[CdnBeerLover]

Deleted. My guess on the meaning of the date code isn't correct.

 

[upNdown]

40 shipped conus

 

[upNdown]

$35 shipped conus pp ff

 

[dbertheau]

I'll take these...PM coming.