Poker chips from the movie "The Sting"?

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Watched the movie "The Sting" the other day which features a pretty classic poker scene. Does anyone know anything about the chips they used in that movie? I searched this forum but didn't find anything and an initial google search indicated they could be USPC, Burt/ASM/CPC. A couple other locations indicate they might have some relation to Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) but the timing of the founding of AA casts some doubt on that. Regardless, just curious if anyone has seen these out there for sale at any point.
 

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I personally cannot ID the chips, but the scene was enough to make my head hurt. String betting, pot splashing, and a $300 raise on top of a $500 bet? Baaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!
 

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Found these dead ringers. If the makers of such a great movie wanted authenticity, these would be period appropriate chips.

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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1920s-ol...e-circle-triangle-aa-symbol-lot-/111696864898
 

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I think PZ found good examples in his post. Good find and I agree that those are likely the chips in question. Or spot-on examples.

As for the actual game in the movie, I'm sure there are many "true poker" inaccuracies, but I think it's possible the $300 bet was intentionally "wrong" because Newman's intention (other than winning) was to get under Shaw's skin. But, I defer to the real poker experts/nerds/aficionados/crazies/addicts on here for the final verdict.
 

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I think rules concerning pot splashing, string raises and bet sizing are casino rules, and relatively recent at that. In home games there was rarely any structure apart from hand rankings. If I recall correctly there weren't standardized poker rules before Bob Ciaffone created the first set in the 1970s (though house rules obviously existed before that).

Poker rules have evolved over time and continue to evolve even today. The early WSOP games had players play with cash chips and playing out of racks. Most recently the rule that all cash must be converted to chips, and that cash doesn't play has been introduced. So looking back at old footage you're always going to see things that aren't allowed anymore.
 

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I think rules concerning pot splashing, string raises and bet sizing are casino rules, and relatively recent at that. In home games there was rarely any structure apart from hand rankings. If I recall correctly there weren't standardized poker rules before Bob Ciaffone created the first set in the 1970s (though house rules obviously existed before that).

Poker rules have evolved over time and continue to evolve even today. The early WSOP games had players play with cash chips and playing out of racks. Most recently the rule that all cash must be converted to chips, and that cash doesn't play has been introduced. So looking back at old footage you're always going to see things that aren't allowed anymore.

Fascinating
 

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sounds like ceramics to me along side a bunch of string bettin

You're not hearing the actual chips.

The actors were boomed to catch their voices (microphones just overhead, out of the shot); the rest of the sound was foleyed in afterwards by studio artists with all sorts of props, based on what they thought sounded 'authentic' and the sound the director wanted.

Pretty much every footstep you've ever heard in a feature film is actually a foley artist in a studio wearing a similar shoe on a similar piece of flooring with microphones carefully placed around their feet.
 

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Watched the movie "The Sting" the other day which features a pretty classic poker scene. Does anyone know anything about the chips they used in that movie? I searched this forum but didn't find anything and an initial google search indicated they could be USPC, Burt/ASM/CPC. A couple other locations indicate they might have some relation to Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) but the timing of the founding of AA casts some doubt on that. Regardless, just curious if anyone has seen these out there for sale at any point.

i saw some on ebay the other day, a set of the triangle AA ones
 

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They are the old asm's

Plenty of them about our local op shop had half a crate of them for $50. probably 800 or so.

you should be able to find them easily.
 

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regarding the movie

newbies see things like this and play that way. I call AND raise.... ugh

then splash the pot.. and my least favorite thing EVER slow roll..... ugh again

Just help them understand the rule and most importantly WHY the rule is there.

Common understanding is the key!
 

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and lastly

these chips have NOTHING to do with AA.

Just like the swastika that often appears on these chips. nothing to do with Nazis either.
 

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They are the old asm's

Plenty of them about our local op shop had half a crate of them for $50. probably 800 or so.

you should be able to find them easily.

regarding the movie

newbies see things like this and play that way. I call AND raise.... ugh

then splash the pot.. and my least favorite thing EVER slow roll..... ugh again

Just help them understand the rule and most importantly WHY the rule is there.

Common understanding is the key!

and lastly

these chips have NOTHING to do with AA.

Just like the swastika that often appears on these chips. nothing to do with Nazis either.

You couldn't put this in a single post? Did it really have to be three? o_O
 
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