Playing Card ID Please! Did USPC/Fournier ever make plastic cards with the "Bee" artwork? (1 Viewer)

Yep, I bought two, it kinda bothers me that I can't find another color, but that's another project to hunt down at least!
 
Spain ?

I presume these are on (cheap) copag stock
I'm crossing my fingers that these are Fournier cards, as their parent company (United States Playing Card Company) owns the "Bee" line of playing cards.
 
Years ago I bought a large batch of cards directly from Fournier Factory in Spain, for my poker club including Bee poker size in paper and plastic all of them made in Spain for a casino that did not open.

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Years ago I bought a large batch of cards directly from Fournier Factory in Spain, for my poker club including Bee poker size in paper and plastic all of them made in Spain for a casino that did not open.

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My interest is piqued in the plastic cards, what do you have?
 
Sorry years ago from this photo I am not sure what is left now (the Club is closed since April for Covid security and I do not know when they will let it open again) at home I only have Fournier 2800 most of the Bee cards were used in tournaments at the club for how cheap and how easy it was to shuffle them.
 
Sorry years ago from this photo I am not sure what is left now (the Club is closed since April for Covid security and I do not know when they will let it open again) at home I only have Fournier 2800 most of the Bee cards were used in tournaments at the club for how cheap and how easy it was to shuffle them.
No problem! Interested if you ever are able to sell!
 
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So I got these in the mail today, and I'm officially confused. The Ace of Spades says they are made in the USA, but the joker says otherwise with saying they are made in Spain.

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The verdict? I'm honestly not sure. The cards (I think) are printed on the same stock as the Bicycle Prestige cards made in Spain, as evidenced by the blue background line around the middle of each card.

As for the stock itself, it feels ok. What was weird was that the edges of the cards were sharp. Like they would give you a paper cut if the cards were picked up the wrong way. If I slid the cards along the table, they made a grittty sandpaper like sound when they were slid along the Chanman cloth that I have.

The faces are more textured that the backs which were totally smooth. The stock itself is a bit more flexible than the Fournier WSOP cards that I have. These do have the darker red security ink though, which was nice.

Overall, not a bad pickup for $8 a deck, but I'm sad that I can't locate another color anywhere.
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Bee deck versus Fournier deck on the right
 
Looks like another USPCC project after buying out Fournier. It is the same story like Fournier producing Bicycle Prestige right now. What is production date? If it's same stock like Fournier (4 layers of plastic) they could be pretty good cards.
 
Looks like another USPCC project after buying out Fournier. It is the same story like Fournier producing Bicycle Prestige right now. What is production date? If it's same stock like Fournier (4 layers of plastic) they could be pretty good cards.
Where would I see that? Pardon my ignorance but I don't know where I would find it. I don't think I would see it as the decks came to me loose and wrapped only in cellophane. No box.
 
Where would I see that? Pardon my ignorance but I don't know where I would find it. I don't think I would see it as the decks came to me loose and wrapped only in cellophane. No box.
Did not know. I will try to track that serial number on ace of spade
 
View attachment 528054So I got these in the mail today, and I'm officially confused. The Ace of Spades says they are made in the USA, but the joker says otherwise with saying they are made in Spain.

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The verdict? I'm honestly not sure. The cards (I think) are printed on the same stock as the Bicycle Prestige cards made in Spain, as evidenced by the blue background line around the middle of each card.

As for the stock itself, it feels ok. What was weird was that the edges of the cards were sharp. Like they would give you a paper cut if the cards were picked up the wrong way. If I slid the cards along the table, they made a grittty sandpaper like sound when they were slid along the Chanman cloth that I have.

The faces are more textured that the backs which were totally smooth. The stock itself is a bit more flexible than the Fournier WSOP cards that I have. These do have the darker red security ink though, which was nice.

Overall, not a bad pickup for $8 a deck, but I'm sad that I can't locate another color anywhere.
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Bee deck versus Fournier deck on the right

Thanks for the follow-up....strange decks to say the least
 
I am impressed by those Belgian made Cartamundi plastics...if they age well then this could be a winner.
Still love the Piatnik the most but who knows :)
 
I am impressed by those Belgian made Cartamundi plastics...if they age well then this could be a winner.
Still love the Piatnik the most but who knows :)
Which Cartamundi you referring to?
 
View attachment 528054So I got these in the mail today, and I'm officially confused. The Ace of Spades says they are made in the USA, but the joker says otherwise with saying they are made in Spain.

View attachment 528057
The verdict? I'm honestly not sure. The cards (I think) are printed on the same stock as the Bicycle Prestige cards made in Spain, as evidenced by the blue background line around the middle of each card.

As for the stock itself, it feels ok. What was weird was that the edges of the cards were sharp. Like they would give you a paper cut if the cards were picked up the wrong way. If I slid the cards along the table, they made a grittty sandpaper like sound when they were slid along the Chanman cloth that I have.

The faces are more textured that the backs which were totally smooth. The stock itself is a bit more flexible than the Fournier WSOP cards that I have. These do have the darker red security ink though, which was nice.

Overall, not a bad pickup for $8 a deck, but I'm sad that I can't locate another color anywhere.
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Bee deck versus Fournier deck on the right
I'll disagree that they're prestige stock. I'm not sure who's stock this is, but it's a lot stiffer than I like. I like my cards thin and flexy - these are not. Too bad because I really like their look.
 
I'll disagree that they're prestige stock. I'm not sure who's stock this is, but it's a lot stiffer than I like. I like my cards thin and flexy - these are not. Too bad because I really like their look.
Maybe, but the "Made in USA" on the Ace of Spades and the "Made in Spain" on the joker totally has me thrown for a loop.
 
Confirmed Fournier per the Redneck Database :)
 
Confirmed Fournier per the Redneck Database :)
Hmm. Maybe I got used to broken-in Fourniers? I don't have any open now, and I hate to crack open a new setup when my nest live game might not be for another 6 months. I guess I'll take the redneck's word for it.
 

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