Cash Game Played Some Low Limit 7-Card Stud (1 Viewer)

[Alex Lundstrum]

Last night after getting two-outered out of a tourney, started killing time with the other early busters playing 1/2 Limit 7CS. We played no ante, full small bet for bring-in. Was a really good time (and I made $50, which was also nice).

I have a question on general practice: Is it typical to not use burn cards? I know Roberts rules states burning, so officially I know you do, however I had 4 people looking at me like I had 3 heads when I started burning between streets. I'm really not worried about it, nobody was at the level of watching for marked cards, just struck me as odd that nobody thought there should be burns.

 

[CantSpellPoker]

I assume it has something to do with the amount of cards in the deck? To play 7-handed requires 49 cards, so you wouldn't have enough cards if you burned between streets. I don't play 7 card live, though. I'm sure others will have a better answer.

 

[ruskba]

My guess is few people understand the point of a burn card. They just know that’s how it’s done for hold ‘em and don’t think about other games.

Definitely burn, though.

 

[Alex Lundstrum]

I assume it has something to do with the amount of cards in the deck? To play 7-handed requires 49 cards, so you wouldn't have enough cards if you burned between streets. I don't play 7 card live, though. I'm sure others will have a better answer.

Roberts rules actually has provision to play 8-handed with potential for a community river if you run out of cards. If there are enough cards including burns, you use the burns for seventh street.

 

[DoubleEagle]

Is it typical to not use burn cards?

Home games rarely use a burn card in my experience. Casino, always.

 

[pltrgyst]

I haven't seen a game, home or otherwise, that doesn't use burn cards since ... around 1958.

 

[Kain8]

There are absolutely no burn cards at all in stud games.

 

[Alex Lundstrum]

There are absolutely no burn cards at all in stud games.

OK, so it appears there is a contingent for the no-burn out there.

For those who do not burn, is it in order to preserve having enough cards and if so, do you then cap the game at 7-handed instead of the RRoP allowed 8?

 

[1A25R]

Another variant of the rule:

Seven cards to eight players plus four burn cards makes 60 cards, and there are only 52 in the deck. In most games this is not a problem because several players will have folded in early betting rounds. If the deck does become exhausted during play, previously-dealt burn cards can be used when only a few cards are needed to complete the deal. If even those are not sufficient, then on the final round instead of dealing a downcard to each player, a single community card is dealt to the center of the table, and is shared by everyone. Discarded cards from a folded hand are not reused.

 

[DoubleEagle]

There are absolutely no burn cards at all in stud games.

You should always burn a card before dealing each street. This prevents players from identifying cards on the top of the deck, due to either a worn deck or in the worst case, a marked deck.

 

[abby99]

Always burn, but I don't say anything if I'm at someone else's game and they do it differently. When in Rome and all that.

 

[Kain8]

You should always burn a card before dealing each street. This prevents players from identifying cards on the top of the deck, due to either a worn deck or in the worst case, a marked deck.

I just ran to Robert's Rules of Poker to smoosh how I'm right in your face but that sure as heck backfired on me. I guess my casino training has failed me because they did not burn any cards for the brief time they spread 7 card. Learned something new today!

 

[smsguy927]

When dealing stud games, I am supposed to burn a card before dealing the next street. However, it is the game family where I am most likely to forget to burn a card and/or expose a burn card.