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Have a quick question for you guys. So I went all in after the river card and the other guy quickly flipped one card face up. But insisted he was neither calling or folding. Is this a thing? I've seen people show one card after folding but not during the game and insisting they are still in play.
 
If you were heads up it depends on the house rule. If there were three or more players its a fold and he should be warned or penalized if there was action left after him.
 
It was heads up. He said if we were playing at a casino with an inspector it would be legal. Is that accurate?
 
Some places allow it, they wouldn't at my local, but there are so many stupid rules there.

I don't see a problem with it myself if he's closing the action. He's just trying to gauge your reaction.
 
Should be fine. People "use it to get a read". It's a horseshit thing posers do mostly. But legal. Tell him to make a decision so we can play next hand.

Next thing out of your mouth should have been "CLOCK!"
 
Don’t make any move with your cards! Often people will think it means he is folding and muck their own hand by mistake.

It is usually legal if heads up in most casinos for cash games. Tournaments it usually won’t kill the hand but will get the player a warning at least and possibly an orbit of sitting out.
 
Tournament: illegal always
Cash game: legal when heads up
 
"push your chips or fold the hand" Otherwise, I'm dragging the pot and he can complain all he wants.
 
If you were heads up it depends on the house rule. If there were three or more players its a fold and he should be warned or penalized if there was action left after him.
Never, ever this!
Don't make up random hand-killing rules if you want players coming back. I see no reason for warnings or penalties if there was players behind him. He already penalized himself by showing half of his hand.

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Never, ever this!
Don't make up random hand-killing rules if you want players coming back. I see no reason for warnings or penalties if there was players behind him. He already penalized himself by showing half of his hand.

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If there are players to act behind there definitely should be a warning or penalty. He is giving extra information to them! Possible colluding could be happening. I am going to assume you post is a typo meant to type there wasn’t players behind.....
 
If there are players to act behind there definitely should be a warning or penalty. He is giving extra information to them! Possible colluding could be happening. I am going to assume you post is a typo meant to type there wasn’t players behind.....
Correct just one on one. Thanks for the info.
 
Never, ever this!
Don't make up random hand-killing rules if you want players coming back. I see no reason for warnings or penalties if there was players behind him. He already penalized himself by showing half of his hand.

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Yeah, I stand corrected. TDA rule 68 states to issue a warning or penalty, but not to kill the hand.
 
If there are players to act behind there definitely should be a warning or penalty. He is giving extra information to them! Possible colluding could be happening. I am going to assume you post is a typo meant to type there wasn’t players behind.....
If he wants to share half his hand with more action following, I don't understand how he could be colluding with anyone? He's penalizing himself by giving up relevant info for players yet to act. For a tournament I agree, but I don't see why in a cash game. I don't allow this tourneys because I know there's a rule against it (though I never kill the hand) and smarter people than I came up with them, but I haven't seen this rule in cash games.
 
If he wants to share half his hand with more action following, I don't understand how he could be colluding with anyone? He's penalizing himself by giving up relevant info for players yet to act.
They’d do it in any scenario where it helped the other teammate more than it hurt themselves. Giving that other player an edge even if temporary. Plenty of scenarios where this could occur especially when three handed and if the two conspirators worked out any level of signals.
 
Neither of the two major rulesets calls for the killing of a hand just for turning them face up.

Robert's rules for home games makes no mention of player exposed hands with action pending other than as an etiquette violation. (Meaning something you might boot a player for doing repeatedly.)

Rule 68 in TDA however, does prescribe a penalty for this action, but not a dead hand.

Exposing cards with action pending, including the current player when last to act, may result in a penalty but not a dead hand. Any penalty begins at the end of the hand.

So if there is a rule that exposing a card kills the hand, it would have to be an explicit house rule.
 
It may be illegal in tournaments, and should be penalized. But it does not kill the hand

In cashgame it is mostly allowed HU
But you should not do it.
You always run risks by not playing by the book
 

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