Pennsylvania residents rejoice! (1 Viewer)

[joepro]

I think this is good news, it appears that PA residents will be allowed to play online soon. Not sure what sites will be available, but they mentioned a player pool with NJ, DE, and NV.


http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...nnsylvania-governor-s-desk-signature-expected

 

[Ronoh]

Interesting. So how does the in-state thing work? Do you have to have a physical address in said state? I can be across the state line in ten minutes flat

 

[brains613]

Interesting. So how does the in-state thing work? Do you have to have a physical address in said state? I can be across the state line in ten minutes flat

It's certainly done by IP address. Computer, not physical.

 

[brains613]

It's certainly done by IP address. Computer, not physical.

Expanding a bit. You could cross the line, stop at Starbucks, connect to their wifi and play. (Likely) You'd have issue cashing out though. That's probably more of a "state's residents" thing.

 

[upNdown]

Expanding a bit. You could cross the line, stop at Starbucks, connect to their wifi and play. (Likely) You'd have issue cashing out though. That's probably more of a "state's residents" thing.

Just speculation, but I bet you’d have trouble opening a cash account without an in-state address.

 

[detroitdad]

Colleen is from PA. Maybe its time to relocate I was even worse at online poker than I am live. Hopefully Michigan doesn't bring it back lol

 

[ChipTalker]

I am in NJ and assuming it is the same you do not need an in state address or any of that and cash out is fine. You just need to be in state to play which they enforce through IP address and other means. It is no different then crossing the border to play at Atlantic City then going home to a different state.

 

[MD Mike]

It's certainly done by IP address. Computer, not physical.

Time to find someone that wants to host a proxy for me lol

 

[derekdd23]

I am in NJ and assuming it is the same you do not need an in state address or any of that and cash out is fine. You just need to be in state to play which they enforce through IP address and other means. It is no different then crossing the border to play at Atlantic City then going home to a different state.

Same as in Nevada

 

[ChipTalker]

Time to find someone that wants to host a proxy for me lol

Proxy does not work, they have accounted for that.

 

[Nex]

Proxy does not work, they have accounted for that.

Public proxies or known proxy services likely not, but I'm almost willing to bet there is a relatively cheap/easy way to get around it with a private proxy.
Find a friend in the state to wire up a Raspberry Pi to his home router and tunnel your traffic through VPN or even plain old SSH (sshuttle: a poor man's VPN) to that Raspi.
IP address then is not of a known proxy and hence likely not blacklisted.
Suck it, regulation.

(It would definitely be helpful though if said friend doesn't play on the same site you're planning to play on.)

In order to detect such a setup they'd have to employ really advanced and highly heuristic analysis, and I doubt they have that in place.

 

[ChipTalker]

Anything is possible with enough time and money but there is not a known way to defeat the protection including any VPN. They have done the analysis and I do not remember all the details but they have errored on the side of not letting you play so in sone cases you can be legit and get denied.

One annoyance is you have to play over wifi even on a desktop. The reason is it takes note of other wifi signals around you to make sure they are all in state as well ... you get the idea. Like I said anything is possible but it has been well thought out.

 

[Nex]

Anything is possible with enough time and money but there is not a known way to defeat the protection including any VPN. They have done the analysis and I do not remember all the details but they have errored on the side of not letting you play so in sone cases you can be legit and get denied.

One annoyance is you have to play over wifi even on a desktop. The reason is it takes note of other wifi signals around you to make sure they are all in state as well ... you get the idea. Like I said anything is possible but it has been well thought out.

Okay, WOW. That definitely is a harder nut to crack.
Probably not impossible either though.

 

[Ben]

Yep, the concept is pretty simple. If you're in the state, you can play. No issues with creating an account, you can cash-out out of state, etc. You just have to be physically located in the state while playing. I have a buddy who goes to Vegas and basically spends 90% of the time sitting in his hotel room playing online (yeah, I can't recommend this as a life choice, but you can do it. )

They do err on the side of caution on this and there have been reported cases of actual residents in areas near state lines being denied, so you may or may not have problems just driving 10 minutes in to the first Starbucks and trying to play.

 

[johnnycnote]

Public proxies or known proxy services likely not, but I'm almost willing to bet there is a relatively cheap/easy way to get around it with a private proxy.
Find a friend in the state to wire up a Raspberry Pi to his home router and tunnel your traffic through VPN or even plain old SSH (sshuttle: a poor man's VPN) to that Raspi.
IP address then is not of a known proxy and hence likely not blacklisted.
Suck it, regulation.

(It would definitely be helpful though if said friend doesn't play on the same site you're planning to play on.)

In order to detect such a setup they'd have to employ really advanced and highly heuristic analysis, and I doubt they have that in place.

The IP address must be confirmed in NJ (or DE, NV, and hopefully PA soon) from multiple WiFi connections around you. This happens even if you're using a LAN to connect to the interweb. If you loose your WiFi, or if you don't have enough WiFi connections around you, you get disconnected. If you're in the middle of a hand, you get disconnected once you finish the hand you're playing. Also, any remote access programs like TeamWiewer or LogMeIn can't be actively running.

 

[Nex]

Are there any details known on how exactly they confirm that a particular WiFi hotspot near you is located in a certain state?
As far as I know the broadcast signal doesn't contain any details except for the hardware address of the router, which tells nothing about its location by itself.

 

[Ronoh]

so you may or may not have problems just driving 10 minutes in to the first Starbucks and trying to play.

Certainly makes it more difficult for me. While I can be in the state in ten minutes I was picturing a middle of nowhere playing in a state park next to a small lake while sitting in my truck ten minute drive. It's a strong 45+ minutes to anywhere that may meet their criteria as described ITT. Sigh.

 

[justsomedude]

Looks like this is a go...

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-nws-pa-tom-wolf-casino-bill-20171030-story.html

 

[derekdd23]

I hope with PA signing this on NY gets off their ass and finally pushes the bill through. It has been very close the last 2 years.

Although with ACR now using Crypto I am not as in need as I used to be.

 

[nitzilla]

Damn Colorado, we can get pot, but online poker is a no............

 

[Nex]

I've been baffled ever since I heard (most) Americans were not allowed to play poker online.

A shitload of casinos throughout the country and poker being a popular sport, you would really think online gambling is something your regulators couldn't care less about. The brick and mortar casino lobby must have been pushing hard.

 

[pedrofisk]

Of course if you want to play with the rest of the world I believe you still have to go to Canada. Another good reason to move.

 

[Nex]

You might not even want to play with the whole rest of the world though... or at least have the choice.
The int'l sites are overrun with eastern european and 3rd world country grinders.