ChipEnvy
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Don't buy chips as an investment. In the long run, if you break even, you are doing well.
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Don't buy chips as an investment. In the long run, if you break even, you are doing well.
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Your nickname is fine. Because considering it, no one is surprised that baseness can reach such heights.
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I have been told I have a deep voice. Thank you.Your nickname is fine. Because considering it, no one is surprised that baseness can reach such heights.
Northern Paladin
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I reassure you, I love seeing you arrive in a thread. Because I appreciate your contributions, most often crazy and funny.Your nickname is fine. Because considering it, no one is surprised that baseness can reach such heights.
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OneGearManySpeeds
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Having no better advice than the ones given to you above, I would insist on getting samples and taking your time.
I'm also a former magic the gathering player and collector and have also sold a few cards to buy some clay chips. As such, I somewhat regret my "chaos orb" card in beta version...
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Along the lines of taking my time… I agree. If I were to talk my time and not drop $5-6000 on the tiger palace or similar Paulson purchase I do still need a cash set and would love some affordable clay chips with sharp edges, nice surface texture etc. I’m looking at the Key West chips for $2.36 a chip ($1,652 for 7 trays) and love the (.05, .25, 1, 5, and 20) the colors are a little dull but they look like they are highly crafted and feel well? Thinking that will give me the time to properly get in on the right Paulson.
Thoughts on the key west as a stop gap that doesn’t piss off the wife? Alternatives I should look at to the key west (retail)
As for the magic, I hear ya brother. I’ve sold thousands of cards that have gone up and also thousands that prolly dropped in value after as well. Sold a few mox back in the late 90s that I regret. Thinking a couple of these would get me into a cash set I could enjoy.
CPC offers several off-the-shelf stock designs at discounted set/rack prices; prolly worth a look as well.
I don't think of Key West chips as something you get while you're waiting to get Paulsons. CPC makes amazing chips.
Northern Paladin
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Key Wests are great chips! I love them. As @warma pointed out, they have a vintage aesthetic so they can't really compare to the Tigers. The advantage is that they were produced in all denominations. So if you're struggling to find one of them in the quantity you want, you could fall back on another chip for relabelling.
Unfortunately the wife often represents a brake in our activity... Compared to the cost of the tigers, that of the Key Wests is undoubtedly a good compromise.
Wow! You must have at least $20,000 on hand there! The game must have changed a lot since my time, no matter the type. But from memory, it's only allowed to have one copy of a legendary land card in play. So why do you have 16 of them?
Unfortunately the wife often represents a brake in our activity... Compared to the cost of the tigers, that of the Key Wests is undoubtedly a good compromise.
Wow! You must have at least $20,000 on hand there! The game must have changed a lot since my time, no matter the type. But from memory, it's only allowed to have one copy of a legendary land card in play. So why do you have 16 of them?
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OneGearManySpeeds
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Ya I hear ya on CPC... I tend to flip about every few hours on what set to get... I do know what I want tho. Good thing I didn't buy the key west yesterday. currently looking at the Atlantic Club and more vibrant than the key west. I am kinda in love with the key west 20s tho so i'll mourn the loss of that 20 if I go CPC. I just need some crisp edges, some texture, and at least a somewhat typical color for 1s 5s 20s for cash. Thanks.
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OneGearManySpeeds
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Key Wests are great chips! I love them. As @warma pointed out, they have a vintage aesthetic so they can't really compare to the Tigers. The advantage is that they were produced in all denominations. So if you're struggling to find one of them in the quantity you want, you could fall back on another chip for relabelling.
Unfortunately the wife often represents a brake in our activity... Compared to the cost of the tigers, that of the Key Wests is undoubtedly a good compromise.
Wow! You must have at least $20,000 on hand there! The game must have changed a lot since my time, no matter the type. But from memory, it's only allowed to have one copy of a legendary land card in play. So why do you have 16 of them?
On Friday nights (back in the day) I did some trading while I was gaming and my boilerplate reply to anyone asking to trade is "I'm looking for cradles" That was back when they were type 2 legal so the card pictured above were trading for around $5 to $10 tops... so if I didn't need anything I just said I'll take your cradle in trade... now they are worth $1000+ give or take the given month.
Similarly I don't mind spending some cash on Chips if I know the value won't go down. Dice chip set at $50 will be worth $5 later. A $200 china clay set may be worth 100+ later. If a $1500 set maintains it's value I'm in and if a Paulson $6000 set is worth 7 or 8 later... I don't mind paying that. I'd rather think of chips as a way to invest or squirl away value rather than loose $100 on a cheap set. Still vetting this philosophy. It's not the magic card market for sure but there should be some similarities right? If there's a threshold you reach where your investment doesn't' depreciate I'm all in. just a matter of learning where that threshold is... I hear clay is good, certain molds are good, color batches are preferred, multi shape inlays are good, Still learning.
Do you think, if I picked up an Atlantic Club set of $1, $5, $100 and then relabeled the key west .5, .25, and $20
Or relabled the Atlantic $5000 to $.25 ?
Is this even an option with these manufacturers??
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OneGearManySpeeds
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On Friday nights (back in the day) I did some trading while I was gaming and my boilerplate reply to anyone asking to trade is "I'm looking for cradles" That was back when they were type 2 legal so the card pictured above were trading for around $5 to $10 tops... so if I didn't need anything I just said I'll take your cradle in trade... now they are worth $1000+ give or take the given month.
Similarly I don't mind spending some cash on Chips if I know the value won't go down. Dice chip set at $50 will be worth $5 later. A $200 china clay set may be worth 100+ later. If a $1500 set maintains it's value I'm in and if a Paulson $6000 set is worth 7 or 8 later... I don't mind paying that. I'd rather think of chips as a way to invest or squirl away value rather than loose $100 on a cheap set. Still vetting this philosophy. It's not the magic card market for sure but there should be some similarities right? If there's a threshold you reach where your investment doesn't' depreciate I'm all in. just a matter of learning where that threshold is... I hear clay is good, certain molds are good, color batches are preferred, multi shape inlays are good, Still learning.
Do you think, if I picked up an Atlantic Club set of $1, $5, $100 and then relabeled the key west .5, .25, and $20
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Or relabled the Atlantic $5000 to $.25 ?
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Is this even an option with these manufacturers??
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Where at in Michigan are you from?
ChipEnvy
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Unless you are in love with that inlay, if you're going with CPC go fully custom and get the edgespots, base colors and denominations you want.
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OneGearManySpeeds
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GR. You?
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OneGearManySpeeds
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I still have no idea what options I have available for a custom set. So I’m thinking Atlantic club, fully custom, choose either the horse head mold or the capital A, then colors, edge patterns, and completely custom labels? Sounds like I need to email CPC.
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OneGearManySpeeds
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ChipEnvy
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Indeed! Have fun with it. Creating the chips is half the fun, so take your time and keep tweaking it until you end up with your dream set.
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I’m new at this too, but it sounds like I’m a few months ahead of you on getting a lay of the land. If you’re really stuck on making sure the value is retained you can harvest (or buy in the classifieds) live casino chips. As long as they’re live you can cash them in for face value back at the casino they came from. You’ll generally pay a premium if buying from someone else who physically takes them from the casino, but this seems like the surest way to guarantee they don’t lose value.
I’m pretty sure I’ll be designing a CPC set, but given the long lead time I might just build a casino set in my next Vegas trip (next week!) to get me by and just cash those in during my next Vegas trip after I get my CPC set.
I’m currently playing with Majestics and while they are nice and very playable they just aren’t “it” for me.
Good luck!
I’m pretty sure I’ll be designing a CPC set, but given the long lead time I might just build a casino set in my next Vegas trip (next week!) to get me by and just cash those in during my next Vegas trip after I get my CPC set.
I’m currently playing with Majestics and while they are nice and very playable they just aren’t “it” for me.
Good luck!
That might be true by percentage, but certainly not by raw dollars.
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OneGearManySpeeds
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Oh my word, how have I never thought if this. Buying 2 racks of nickels, quarters and dollars and paying 3 bucks a chip?? You’re saying just get face value at a casino?? They’ll let you just leave with the chips?
The term is "harvesting", and is quite common among this group. They will generally let you leave with chips, but not the racks.
That said, casinos that use nickels are non-existent and quarters are quite rare these days.
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OneGearManySpeeds
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Depending on the casino it may be harder to do than just buy them and walk out. Generally poker rooms let you buy racks of whatever is commonly played. $5’s are easy, and $1’s probably easy, especially if they spread $3/$6 limit.
Casinos with no poker room get tricky because the cage will generally not let you buy chips so you have to buy them at a table game and earn them playing table games and pocketing what you want as you gather them.
Sure people report that asking for a barrel of $1’s for tips will sometimes work but it’s all dependent on who you’re dealing with case by case.
I haven’t done this yet myself so I’m going to find out in a little over a week. But stuff like betting $6 with two red chips and getting four $1’s in change every hand and pocketing them might get the attention of someone who might ask you to stop. Just search this site for “harvesting” and read up. Lots of varying stories of success and failure.
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OneGearManySpeeds
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Right on. Thanks man that’s super helpful.
chipchipchip
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I was in your shoes about three months ago. It’s a fun rabbit hole to fall into!
If you're interested in some fun reading, this thread features the harvesting frenzy this past summer...the WSOP at Paris with new chips.
Madness!
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/harvesting-paris-chips-tell-us-your-story.91173/
Madness!
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/harvesting-paris-chips-tell-us-your-story.91173/
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OneGearManySpeeds
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Those are some gorgeous chips.
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OneGearManySpeeds
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Hey so I found the custom design tool from CPC and designed my dream set, not fully my design but thought I'd share the process. the Paulson Hat 1, 5, and 100 are dreamy and subsequently the Atlantic Club set. Inserts match the Paulson's as does the colors I hope. I'm sure some of you with sharp eyes can catch any problems with the Paulson match on the 1, 5, and 100.
the Key West $20 is so nice I think it fits, what do you guys think?
that leaves the 5 cent and 25 cents. I took a stab and tried to get something that fit the Paulson's and was complimentary. The fracks seem like they are generally less bright and less edge spots. I also tried to get the Nickel and Quarter to share some color without being confusing if you're raking in a big pot. and the Nickel tone on tone edge spots very low contrast seems in keeping with subtle nickels I've seen. I guess I could have no edge spots on the nickels but I love how they look in the rack.
I love how chips look in the rack and not many people take photos of the edge spots racked up but that's important how your collection looks all racked and stacked. What do you guys think of the integration of the $20, Nickels and Quarters? Let me know. If any designers out there think they have a better color combination for the nickels and quarters let me know. I think the progression and colors overall look good but let me know if I'm breaking any cardinal rules here. I'm a product designer (industrial designer) but I'm new to the forum.
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Some of the side by side shots I'm working with.
the Key West $20 is so nice I think it fits, what do you guys think?
that leaves the 5 cent and 25 cents. I took a stab and tried to get something that fit the Paulson's and was complimentary. The fracks seem like they are generally less bright and less edge spots. I also tried to get the Nickel and Quarter to share some color without being confusing if you're raking in a big pot. and the Nickel tone on tone edge spots very low contrast seems in keeping with subtle nickels I've seen. I guess I could have no edge spots on the nickels but I love how they look in the rack.
I love how chips look in the rack and not many people take photos of the edge spots racked up but that's important how your collection looks all racked and stacked. What do you guys think of the integration of the $20, Nickels and Quarters? Let me know. If any designers out there think they have a better color combination for the nickels and quarters let me know. I think the progression and colors overall look good but let me know if I'm breaking any cardinal rules here. I'm a product designer (industrial designer) but I'm new to the forum.
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Some of the side by side shots I'm working with.
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also, check my math here if anyone knows colors and manufacturing really well let me know if these are accurate reproductions of the Paulson hat or Atlantic Club as well as the Key West 20. the colors in the design tool do not actually look exactly like the photos of production chips so I'm guessing at what looks correct. If anyone's an expert on the CPC process, colors, capabilities, etc. let me know. For example, the black 100 chip is using the black from the "weighted colors" but I'm not using the weighted "Orange" color. I'm using the Unweighted "Dayglo Tiger" orange and I'm not sure if they are compatible. Seems closer to the Paulson orange spot so looks better at least in the designer. Open to feedback if anyone is interested in this sort of thing and can't help themselves to comment . Cheers,
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