PAHWM: 25 NL Zone @ Ignition (1 Viewer)

[boltonguy]

Anonymous fast-fold 25NL at Ignition. No reads, no HUDs.

Hero is effective stack with 96 BB. Folds to Hero in SB with . Hero opens to 3BB (standard open).
Villain in BB calls. Pot is 6 BB. Flop is .

Hero bets 3BB. Villain raises to 8BB. Hero?

 

[Perthmike]

I hate the open preflop and I fold to the raise. I don't see any benefit to keep going here

 

[boltonguy]

I hate the open preflop and I fold to the raise. I don't see any benefit to keep going here

You dont open the SB with J9o? Are you folding this hand when the action folds to you in the SB pre-flop?

 

[Perthmike]

You dont open the SB with J9o? Are you folding this hand when the action folds to you in the SB pre-flop?

I definitely don't open the SB with J9o. I'd just complete the action I guess. I just see these spots as being completely pointless really and if you get a call you end up being out of position with a really poor hand.

Now you've flopped top pair, and are facing a raise. What a dreadful spot with top pair jack kicker. Lot of bad turns for you even if you are ahead. It's just one of those marginal spots I don't like getting involved in.

 

[boltonguy]

Ok. I almost never call when it folds to me in SB. I almost always fold/RFI.
I have seen BB punish flats very often with a large raise as the flat is perceived as weak as it is often representative of a weak hand that wont continue to a raise.

 

[Perthmike]

Ok. I almost never call when it folds to me in SB. I almost always fold/RFI.
I have seen BB punish flats very often with a large raise as the flat is perceived as weak as it is often representative of a weak hand that wont continue to a raise.

Then I'd rather flat most of my range and punish him right back if he's doing it with a wide range.

 

[boltonguy]

I will say we are looking pretty good vs what I think represents a BB defend range. 75% equity & hand is best 92% of the time.

 

[liamj]

Versus this smaller-sized raise, this looks like a clear call. My guess is that you should play pretty balanced in a format like zone, and it would be way too exploitable to fold (villain can profitably raise any hand). Be prepared to fold on a lot of turns though.

 

[boltonguy]

Agreed. The raise size seemed odd. Like a medium strength hand that didnt want to commit too much money but was hoping that I fold if I didnt connect with the flop. Something like A7.

Anonymous fast-fold 25NL at Ignition. No reads, no HUDs.

Hero is effective stack with 96 BB. Folds to Hero in SB with . Hero opens to 3BB (standard open).
Villain in BB calls. Pot is 6 BB. Flop is .

Hero bets 3BB. Villain raises to 8BB. Hero calls.
Pot is 22 BB. Turn is

Villain checks. Hero?

 

[warma]

Agreed. The raise size seemed odd. Like a medium strength hand that didnt want to commit too much money but was hoping that I fold if I didnt connect with the flop. Something like A7.

Anonymous fast-fold 25NL at Ignition. No reads, no HUDs.

Hero is effective stack with 96 BB. Folds to Hero in SB with . Hero opens to 3BB (standard open).
Villain in BB calls. Pot is 6 BB. Flop is .

Hero bets 3BB. Villain raises to 8BB. Hero calls.
Pot is 22 BB. Turn is

Villain checks. Hero?

How did this play out?

 

[boltonguy]

I fat fingered - Villain didnt check turn as Hero was in SB. Here's how it went:

Anonymous fast-fold 25NL at Ignition. No reads, no HUDs.

Hero is effective stack with 96 BB. Folds to Hero in SB with . Hero opens to 3BB (standard open).

Villain in BB calls. Pot is 6 BB. Flop is .
Hero bets 3BB. Villain raises to 8BB. Hero calls.

Pot is 22 BB. Turn is
Hero bets 15.68 BB. Villain calls.

Pot is 53.36 BB. River is
Hero bets 38.04 BB. Villain folds.

Villain had

 

[PokerDocTX]

Good play. I am not sure exactly how I would have played it, however I may have check-called the river. On the river, no draws came in, and you can't expect villain to call with much weaker holdings? and it may be a touch too thin to 3rd barrel the J9 for value. (Maybe i'm nitty). If you get called on the river, are you ahead 50% of the time?