OWPS Hybrid Group Buy Poll - Quantity

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How many chips do you plan on ordering in the OWPS Hybrid Group Buy?

  1. 50 of the 39mm hybrids

    7 vote(s)
    21.9%
  2. 100 of the 39mm hybrids

    3 vote(s)
    9.4%
  3. 250 of the 39mm hybrids

    7 vote(s)
    21.9%
  4. 500 of the 39mm hybrids

    6 vote(s)
    18.8%
  5. 1000 of the 39mm hybrids

    4 vote(s)
    12.5%
  6. 2000 of the 39mm hybrids

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 5000 of the 39mm hybrids

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 50 of the 43mm hybrids

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  9. 100 of the 43mm hybrids

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  10. 250 of the 43mm hybrids

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  11. 500 of the 43mm hybrids

    7 vote(s)
    21.9%
  12. 1000 of the 43mm hybrids

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  13. 2000 of the 43mm hybrids

    1 vote(s)
    3.1%
  14. 5000 of the 43mm hybrids

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Sep 12, 2017 at 7:47 AM
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    BGinGA

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    I'm a little confused by this.

    The price of labels only (regardless of whether for 39mm or 43mm chips) is 14c per chip (7c per label).
    The price difference between labeled 39mm chips and unlabeled 39mm chips is 18c per chip (.74-.56).
    The price difference between labeled 43mm chips and unlabeled 43mm chips is 22c per chip (.82-.60).

    So the charge for applying labels to 39mm chips is apparently 2c per label (4c per chip), but the charge for applying labels to 43mm chips is 4c per label (8c per chip), or twice as much?
     
  2. Sep 12, 2017 at 12:08 PM
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    Call it bad math.

    This all gets a bit confusing with all the discounts and levels, labels and no labels, etc. And not including the fact that we have to get above the 10k mark on sales on each size.

    Sorry about that.

    Unfortunately it increases the cost of the labelless 43mm.

    Fixed. Updated the first post as well.

    Hybrids with Labels

    39mm Hybrid (both molds) Aligned = $0.74/each
    43mm Hybrid (both molds) Aligned = $0.82/each

    Hybrids without Labels

    39mm Hybrid (both molds) Aligned = $0.56/each
    43mm Hybrid (both molds) Aligned = $0.64/each

    25.4mm Labels ONLY

    $0.07 cents per label or $0.14 cents per chip
     
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  3. Sep 12, 2017 at 1:18 PM
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    If we don't make that price on 39mm I would probably go 43mm. If me moving to all 43mm makes the price go down on 43mm I would also probably switch. As it stands I'm still on the fence and probably will be until I click the order button.
     
  4. Sep 12, 2017 at 2:01 PM
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    As it looks the price on the 43mm won't be changing.

    Actually the price on the 39mm might go up by 4 cents unless we can break 10k.

    Then if we go to ordering and through the actual ordering phase we end up breaking 10k then everyone who ordered the 39mm would get a 4 cent per chip refund. That's probably the best way to handle it.
     
  5. Sep 12, 2017 at 2:03 PM
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    If that's the case I would probably pay 4 cents more(on top of the 4 cent increase) to just get all 43mm since I was thinking of doing it anyway.
     
  6. Sep 12, 2017 at 2:32 PM
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    The 43mm won't be changing because it looks like it hit 10k. So there won't be an increase there.

    The 4 cent increase most likely will happen on the 39mm because it hasn't topped 10k in the poll.
     
  7. Sep 12, 2017 at 3:22 PM
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    Changed my votes to all 43mm
     
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  8. Sep 12, 2017 at 6:15 PM
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    Changed my vote to all 43s too. I'm trusting all the reviews about how awesome these are. Can we order 43mm racks at the same time we order the chips?
     
  9. Sep 12, 2017 at 7:18 PM
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    Sorry Sal, didn't vote in the poll as I'm probably not going to be buying during the first GB run due to the order timing. I will be probably be picking up 500-1500 (all 43mm) whenever I do order, even at the higher priceing if necessary, just can't say I will make the GB order time frame.
     
  10. Sep 12, 2017 at 9:37 PM
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    well, Irma swung and missed us, so it looks like I am back in. Cast my votes into the 39mm ranks, but sadly, (by my maff) doesn't break the 10k number--my unofficial count is now 8700 total of the 39mm.

    I have other questions that I will email to you. If you like, I can post them in this thread later. Trying not to gum up the waters now that we seem to be approaching the next step.

    Thanks!
     
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  11. Sep 12, 2017 at 11:55 PM
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    I totally understand. But hopefully you'll be able to make it in. I'll keep it open for three weeks.
     
  12. Oct 12, 2017 at 1:44 PM
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    We're getting scarily close to the deadline, the 16th and we're nowhere near the predicted numbers from the polling.

    CURRENT TOTALS (as of Oct 12th)
    39mm
    - 3105
    43mm - 2595
    60mm - 5
    Labels - 2200

    We've only had 8 members place orders.

    If we don't meet our goals on the 43mm chips of at least 10k and the goals on the 39mm of at least 5k then we won't be able to move forward because the pricing won't match what was predicted - meaning either those who ordered already will have to pay the higher costs per chip (probably 4 cents per chip) OR we cancel the whole group buy and reimburse everyone.

    I understand some people are waiting to order last minute but at this point it would help to know who else plans on ordering in the last days aside from @v1pe or who needs more time past the deadline. I don't want to extend the deadline unless I know it will actually result in us meeting our previous goals.
     
  13. Oct 12, 2017 at 5:12 PM
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    per Sal:


    "CURRENT TOTALS (as of Oct 12th)
    39mm
    - 3105
    43mm - 2595
    60mm - 5
    Labels - 2200"

    Per my math from above poll:

    39mm 8100
    43mm 10,950

    Something is amiss. We need to honor our commitment to his work, guys.
     
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  14. Oct 13, 2017 at 11:39 AM
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    Thanks for adding to the numbers guys.

    Here are the current totals from 11 members. We're still currently less than half way to where we initially predicted. I'll be attempting to contact some of the members who responded to the polling (and asking a moderator for a list of voters just in case we have to reach out further.)

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    CURRENT TOTALS (as of Oct 13th)
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    39mm
    - 3105
    43mm - 4995
    60mm - 6
    Labels - 2200
     
  15. Oct 14, 2017 at 5:57 AM
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    ^^ This ^^ Lets not shoot our other foot...
     
  16. Oct 14, 2017 at 10:14 AM
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    Placing order this weekend - been busy with other things.
    This looks like B-walk excitement fatigue. So many were pumped for that design, anything else feels like settling. :cautious:
     
  17. Oct 17, 2017 at 4:53 PM
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    Ok guys,
    Well, looks like there were some minds that changed and instead of the 43mm not making the goal now it's the 39mm that's just short of the 5k goal.

    I'm really surprised that the 43mm turned around though. That was fantastic.

    Anyways we're 220 chips short of 5k now on the 39mm chips now. lol.

    Here are the new numbers:

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    CURRENT TOTALS (as of Oct 17th)
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    39mm
    - 4780
    43mm - 11502
    60mm - 16
    Labels - 2300
     
  18. Oct 17, 2017 at 9:10 PM
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    Sal, just give it another 5-7 days and i think you'll hit all the numbers you need. (y) :thumbsup:
     
  19. Oct 17, 2017 at 11:10 PM
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    Just ordered 500 39mm Tangiers (with another 100 43mm in $20's and 25 43mm $100's). Nice small cash set for 4 players

    (y) :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Oct 17, 2017 at 11:29 PM
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    Sounds like we have the numbers by now, good job folks!
     
  21. Oct 17, 2017 at 11:40 PM
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    Yes, we had a small rush of orders this evening which totally helped. I haven't officially reviewed and tallied all the latest orders but I did skim them and they look great.

    I'll post new numbers soon.
     
  22. Oct 18, 2017 at 3:37 AM
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    Great News Everybody!

    We made our goals! We had some folks that were involved in the polling drop out of the group buy but in the end it did work out. We actually surpassed the polling numbers on the 43mm chips.

    I have to go through and set up all the artwork and verify the orders, get artwork approval on custom orders so I'm going to leave the GB open until I'm done. So if anyone is late there's still a little time.

    I will be sending everyone digital artwork proofs.

    Here are the nearly final numbers:

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    TOTALS (as of Oct 18th)
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    39mm
    - 6000
    43mm - 12842
    60mm - 23
    Labels - 2300

    Thanks everyone for a great group buy.