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One last hand from the event of note.

Context : 1k buy-in NLHE freeze out, 2500 runners at level 6 with late reg open for a couple more levels. Starting stacks 20k. Structured with BB ante - at level 6 we are playing 300/600/600, so it's still early and nowhere near the money.

Relevant players are the two big stacks at the table:
SB (Hero) : 68k - low VPIP, no showdowns yet
BB (Villain) : 45k - quality player - this lady: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/another-wsop-tournament-hand.90973/post-1876192

Pot is 1500

Folds to hero, who looks down at :as::qd:
Action on hero (already posted 300 as the SB).
 

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My normal read on an old lady is to raise to 2400 to charge her to play in position.

But this is the WSOP, it makes sense to call/3bet a lot of your AQ here SB vs. BB as well, I probably try that a bit vs. young looking people.
 

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Hero opens of course. Bb defends.

Context : 1k buy-in NLHE freeze out, 2500 runners at level 6 with late reg open for a couple more levels. Starting stacks 20k. Structured with BB ante - at level 6 we are playing 300/600/600, so it's still early and nowhere near the money.

Relevant players are the two big stacks at the table:
SB (Hero) : 68k - low VPIP, no showdowns yet
BB (Villain) : 45k - quality player - this lady: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/another-wsop-tournament-hand.90973/post-1876192

Pot is 1500

Folds to hero, who looks down at :as::qd:
Hero raises to 1500.
BB calls.

Pot is 3600.

Flop comes :qs: :9d::8h:
Action on hero.
 

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Check intending to put in a big raise. Two purposes:

1. With such a wet board, I'd like to give BB an opportunity to come over the top in a way that lets me know AQ is beaten. If Hero check-raises and BB 3-bets, goodbye. If BB calls the check-raise, go into the turn cautiously.

2. I wouldn't mind just taking it down right here. Hero is heads-up and out of position against a skilled player. This is not a pot you want going all the way to a river bet with just TPTK.
 

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Bet 5,000. Hero has been playing passively so this bet will look suspect. Let’s get paid and charge draws the max.
 

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Morning bump - would you lead here, and for how much if so?
I guess that would partly depend on table image. If my opponent knows me to be the kind of guy who’s continuing most/all of the time, then I’m definitely leading here. If I think I could check and induce a bet, I’m checking.
If neither, I’m probably betting around 50%
 

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Hero has been c-betting at about about a 2/3rds rate. With the wet board he figures theres a decent chance to take it down right here.

Context : 1k buy-in NLHE freeze out, 2500 runners at level 6 with late reg open for a couple more levels. Starting stacks 20k. Structured with BB ante - at level 6 we are playing 300/600/600, so it's still early and nowhere near the money.

Relevant players are the two big stacks at the table:
SB (Hero) : 68k - low VPIP, no showdowns yet
BB (Villain) : 45k - quality player - this lady: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/another-wsop-tournament-hand.90973/post-1876192

Pot is 1500

Folds to hero, who looks down at :as::qd:
Hero raises to 1500.
BB calls.

Pot is 3600.

Flop comes :qs: :9d::8h:
Hero bets 2000.
BB thinks for about ten seconds and calls.

Pot is 7600.

Turn brings :qs: :9d::8h::7d:

Action on hero.
 

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Well crap, as played we gave villain easy decision and now one of the worst cards comes out. Probably just open fold.
 

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Well crap, as played we gave villain easy decision and now one of the worst cards comes out. Probably just open fold.
If I've learned one these from these threads it's you are waaaaaay more aggro than I thought.
 

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If I've learned one these from these threads it's you are waaaaaay more aggro than I thought.
Lol this is why I don’t participate in a ton of strat discussions.

You do a good job of not just picking bad beat and humble brags hands, but that’s what most are. Also, a lot of folks are trying to find concensus lines or GTO approved line.

Eff all that I just want to win the hand.
 

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Lol this is why I don’t participate in a ton of strat discussions.

You do a good job of not just picking bad beat and humble brags hands, but that’s what most are. Also, a lot of folks are trying to find concensus lines or GTO approved line.

Eff all that I just want to win the hand.
I hear ya. I just try to pick hands with multiple debatable spots. Will say this whole event, only really lost chips of any significance on two hands. Most of it was card dead blinds losses and my 3rd hand of day 2 preflop shove that didn't work out.
 

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Villain flats to a 2.5 raise pre in BB, so we don’t learn a lot, but she doesn’t hate her cards.
She calls a flop bet that’s a bit over half pot. So what’s she got? Something, I’d say. She’s not drawing to a flush. I have a hard time thinking she’s drawing to a straight. It’s unlikely that she has top pair. Is she calling that bet with middle pair? A9 suited? I dunno. Doesn’t seem likely.
J10 just feels entirely possible here, given the action. Or a set. I’m having a hard time thinking what other things she could have. I don’t think the turn helped her, and I don’t think we’re ahead.
Check
Edit: I suppose AJ and A10 are both possible here. I mean, if we’re ahead, that’s all I imagine she could have. But her flatting that big flop bet on that board has my spidey senses tingling. I’m still a check.
 
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That turn is pretty fortunate in that it changes nothing. The nuts is still TJ. The only hands that improved are hands that would be bizarre for a skilled player to call with on the flop.

The call from BB could represent a broad range of hands, including some weaker value hands (QK, QJ, QT) and some powerful hands she may want to trap with (TJ or one of the three sets). She may have even made the call with a weaker hand than that, like second or third pair with a gutshot. Sometimes good players will float a card here, because position is strong and the SB can easily be c-betting anything.

I like a bet here. A bit more than half the pot, like 4,500. If you were ahead, you're almost always still ahead. Betting costs the same as calling but potentially tells you a hell of a lot more about BB's hand.

A raise from BB is a sign to GTFO. If BB calls, bet most bricked rivers but check some of them (like an 8 or 9) with the intention of calling. If the river puts 4 to a straight on board, that sucks, but we'll see.
 

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Betting costs the same as calling but potentially tells you a hell of a lot more about BB's hand.
This is smart. And since I’m strangely convinced that we’re way behind here and I was check-folding, I guess I hadn’t considered calling, so I hadn’t considered betting. But bet-folding is probably the smarter play.
 

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Continuing. Hero at the time is thinking pot control having been hung out to dry so many times on tptk hands, so he checks. Villain checks behind.

Hero has been c-betting at about about a 2/3rds rate. With the wet board he figures theres a decent chance to take it down right here.

Context : 1k buy-in NLHE freeze out, 2500 runners at level 6 with late reg open for a couple more levels. Starting stacks 20k. Structured with BB ante - at level 6 we are playing 300/600/600, so it's still early and nowhere near the money.

Relevant players are the two big stacks at the table:
SB (Hero) : 68k - low VPIP, no showdowns yet
BB (Villain) : 45k - quality player - this lady: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/another-wsop-tournament-hand.90973/post-1876192

Pot is 1500

Folds to hero, who looks down at :as::qd:
Hero raises to 1500.
BB calls.

Pot is 3600.

Flop comes :qs: :9d::8h:
Hero bets 2000.
BB thinks for about ten seconds and calls.

Pot is 7600.

Turn brings :qs: :9d::8h::7d:

Hero checks.
Villain checks

River is :qs: :9d::8h::7d::6s:

Action on hero.
 

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oof. Check and then if we think villain is gto-y we call and if villain is old man/woman coffee we fold.
 

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Rage fold. Definitely rage fold.

Lol, but seriously, I check. That’s possibly the last card I’d want to see, and I fold to anything.
 

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What story did we tell?
I feel like we told a pretty convincing story for top pair top kicker. Tough to change that story now. Shame on her if she doesn’t take this pot.
Check
 

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Continuing. Hero at the time is thinking pot control having been hung out to dry so many times on tptk hands, so he checks. Villain checks behind.

Hero has been c-betting at about about a 2/3rds rate. With the wet board he figures theres a decent chance to take it down right here.

Context : 1k buy-in NLHE freeze out, 2500 runners at level 6 with late reg open for a couple more levels. Starting stacks 20k. Structured with BB ante - at level 6 we are playing 300/600/600, so it's still early and nowhere near the money.

Relevant players are the two big stacks at the table:
SB (Hero) : 68k - low VPIP, no showdowns yet
BB (Villain) : 45k - quality player - this lady: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/another-wsop-tournament-hand.90973/post-1876192

Pot is 1500

Folds to hero, who looks down at :as::qd:
Hero raises to 1500.
BB calls.

Pot is 3600.

Flop comes :qs: :9d::8h:
Hero bets 2000.
BB thinks for about ten seconds and calls.

Pot is 7600.

Turn brings :qs: :9d::8h::7d:

Hero checks.
Villain checks

River is :qs: :9d::8h::7d::6s:

Hero checks.
BB thinks for a bit and then casually tosses in a 5000 chip.

Action on hero.
 

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We only have 3500 invested with a 68k stack and have played our hand face up. This is one of those hands where I really don't care if they have it or not and it won't tilt me if they show 23o. Unless it's against a very bluff prone player who has pulled this move multiple times, I'm folding and moving onto next hand.
 

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