Cash Game One Chip Rule (1 Viewer)

[RyGuy]

Hi everyone,

So in my 0.25/0.25 home game last night, I was in the big blind and faced a raise to 0.50. Intending to raise to $1 total, I took back my blind and threw in a $1 chip.

Is this a call based on the one chip rule or does it change because I took out a chip and threw in another chip? Normally I announce a raise, but it just slipped my mind this time.

Separately, if I left my blind in there and threw in a $1 chip, is this a call or a raise to $1.25?

Much appreciated!

 

[ChipEnvy]

I would think it’s a call in both situations unless it was verbally indicated.

 

[Alex Lundstrum]

Call in either case without verbal, raise in either case with verbal.

 

[BGinGA]

Intending to raise to $1 total, I took back my blind and threw in a $1 chip.

if I left my blind in there and threw in a $1 chip, is this a call or a raise to $1.25?

I would think it’s a call in both situations unless it was verbally indicated.

Agree. Now, if he had taken back the blind chip and then silently thrown it back in together with the $1 chip, that's a raise..... to $1.25.

 

[timinater]

We interpret the rules as strictly situations where one chip is used. So tossing in the $1 is a call, tossing in the $1 on top of the .25 blind would count as a raise.

I didn't realize when in the blinds the one chip rule could apply like that, will have to read up but probably our house rule will remain.

 

[RyGuy]

Thanks to all!

 

[Alex Lundstrum]

Note: it wasn't asked, but if you made the same move when not facing a raise in the BB, it would be a raise I believe.

 

[hoosierdonny]

Personally, my games would interpret those situations as:
A) Call
B) Raise

 

[TheDuke]

Personally, my games would interpret those situations as:
A) Call
B) Raise

This is how I'd interpret it as well at my home games. The casinos in my area would make the same rulings.

 

[WedgeRock]

How is a $1 chip on top of a 25¢ chip only "one chip" such that the one chip rule would make this a call?

A) Call (one chip rule)
B) Raise to $1.25 (two chips)

 

[Coyote]

IMHHO, (second H stands for heretical), humans should (actually must) make use of their unique gift of speech (among all other animals) when they intend to call, bet or raise.
So, other than checking (tapping on the table) or folding (pushing the hole cards into the muck), all other actions should be obligatory to announce verbally.
I hate the idea of playing with God's creatures unable of speech.

 

[honkydevil]

I feel like the second situation, leaving the blind in, would be a raise. Not sure though, curious to see more opinions.

 

[Highli99]

If the blind is in already, I think it’s part of the pot so it can’t count as a second chip for the single chip thrown in on top. That’s why I would treat a buck on top of a blind quarter as a call absent something oral to the contrary.

 

[smsguy927]

In my cardroom, it's a call in both cases. Granted, we don't spread 25c/25c, but both are calls. It's because of the "Prior Chips not Pulled in" TDA rule 51, which we have adopted for use in cash games.

 

[10centguitar]

Hi everyone,

So in my 0.25/0.25 home game last night, I was in the big blind and faced a raise to 0.50. Intending to raise to $1 total, I took back my blind and threw in a $1 chip.

Is this a call based on the one chip rule or does it change because I took out a chip and threw in another chip? Normally I announce a raise, but it just slipped my mind this time.

Separately, if I left my blind in there and threw in a $1 chip, is this a call or a raise to $1.25?

Much appreciated!

Technically a call for the first and a raise for the second. Only a douche dealer would force you to make it a call if no one said anything. Unless of course you are a total jerk, but if youre tipping and no player said “one chips a call!”, then i as a dealer would say raise and then tell you after the one chip rule.

The pull back showed intent, its worth a warning in most rooms from most dealers if they saw and didnt hate you for being a stiff or turkey.

 

[Mr Winberg]

The pull back showed intent, its worth a warning in most rooms from most dealers if they saw and didnt hate you for being a stiff or turkey.

So a call for me then...

 

[smsguy927]

Last night, someone at my $1/$2 table pulled back their $1 small blind and threw out a $5. It was a call. No one thought it was a raise.

 

[Eriks]

I would never apply one chip rule if raising chip was added to blind. And in your case I would rule call if seasoned player did it and ask a newish player whether they intended to raise or not, allow the raise to stand but with clarification to how said situation will be ruled in future.

 

[BukNaked36]

Last night, someone at my $1/$2 table pulled back their $1 small blind and threw out a $5. It was a call. No one thought it was a raise.

This is what I've always seen in a casino.

It's a call both ways - if a blind is pulled back or the $5 goes out on top.

 

[Gobbs]

No doubt about it, both situations are a call. In these situations, you have to either verbally announce your intention or take a physical action that specifically shows the intended raise. Simply throwing in one chip does not do that in these two situations.

 

[1A25R]

a) call
b) raise

 

[Schrodngercat]

I would agree with above and it would be a) call b) raise but I think it should be questioned either way

 

[Gobbs]

I would agree with above and it would be a) call b) raise but I think it should be questioned either way

I can’t disagree with “questioned” by the dealer for b). This may be an example where asking for clarification is simply a better idea.

 

[Justin Olson]

Cash game at flamingo las vegas March 2019, $1-$2 table. 9 players. Had small blind out of $1, had 2 limpers including button, i silently threw out one red $5 chip intending to raise it to $6. Dealer stated "call", BB asked "That's not six bucks?" Dealer stated "One over chip is a call"

 

[MattyMatt]

At the home games I've hosted (and participated in) I always clearly verbally state if it's a call or raise. Always. And if it's a raise I state the total or raise amount. I encourage others to do the same.

I just feel like clarity is so quick and easy there's really no good reason not to be clear about it. Avoids confusion and people getting annoyed.