New Jack Chips - Clean and Oil, or just Oil? (1 Viewer)

[Jeevansluck]

I've dabbled with this enough already. There are 2 camps it seems. Oil and Not oil.

They are porous on some level these Paulsons. Composed with some amount of clay and other compounds I'm not familiar with.

I've got so many pics to show before and after that I've already posted before. I will always oil. There are varying amounts of oil one can use. It cannot harm a chip to lightly edge oil it as new. This will help seal the chip surfaces.

I haven’t put mine in play yet, but I suspect that after a game or two, the natural oils from players’ hand will suffice.

Golly. I will respctfully disagree here. I wouldn't want natural human oils to be the sealant on new chips. I'm planning to buy Jacks too...very soon. I will 100% lightly edge oil them before ever playing them.

Paulson chips doesn’t need to be oil. In my opinion,

Really? I'd love to know why sir. If you can tell what you base that opinion on, I'm all ears (eyes)

I've purchased a fair amount of used chips now. New CPCs that absolutely needed it. Transformed my set before my eyes. I've purchased a fairly excellent to near mint condition set of Paulsons and was told to not oil. I went ahead and oiled them anyways and the results were astounding. IMHO!

Oil those babies! It doesn't mean pour it on. I've used 2 teaspoons to clean around 1700 chips. Individually by hand. The rag will go on cleaning another 1000 for sure.

 

[LinkyBabe]

This will help seal the chip surfaces.

Not really... mineral oil will only act as a sealant once enough has been absorbed by the chip that it cannot absorb anymore. Just oiling the edges is certainly not enough to seal the chip.

New CPCs that absolutely needed it. Transformed my set before my eyes.

And if you never put them in play, see how they look after a month or two... you will see they look somewhat dry again, as the oil is absorbed into the chip.

Unless you've saturated your chips with mineral oil, oils from your hands are getting into your chips albeit less. I'm not sure I would be overly concerned with oils from hands getting into chips... just look at all of the casino used Paulsons that are harvested by members here. You can see they've been put through a lot worse conditions than what your home game offers (at least I would hope) and I'm pretty certain none of them were pre-oiled before being put into play.

 

[Jeevansluck]

Not really... mineral oil will only act as a sealant once enough has been absorbed by the chip that it cannot absorb anymore. Just oiling the edges is certainly not enough to seal the chip.

And if you never put them in play, see how they look after a month or two... you will see they look somewhat dry again, as the oil is absorbed into the chip.

Unless you've saturated your chips with mineral oil, oils from your hands are getting into your chips albeit less. I'm not sure I would be overly concerned with oils from hands getting into chips... just look at all of the casino used Paulsons that are harvested by members here. You can see they've been put through a lot worse conditions than what your home game offers (at least I would hope) and I'm pretty certain none of them were pre-oiled before being put into play.

We all will gain our own experience as you have gained yours. While I can agree with what you say, it won't stop me from oiling any and all of my chippies to my own delight.

I can't know how much my chips will absorb since I've only been into chipping for 3 months. As I use them, I will learn what's needed or not.

The OP ? Was whether or not to oil new Jacks. I say yes. Yes to oil. Edges. Faces. I did 700 CPCs by hand on the edge and every single face. Sure, the oil may absorb, I will simply re-apply. I love the results. I did my Paulsons. Excellent results.

I will do the Jacks too.

 

[detroitdad]

I have bought and sold a lot of paulsons/trks/cpc's, ect..... In my experience the paulsons haven't needed any oil. Even the brand new, minty, just out of the box. Do I think a little oil would "slightly" enhance them. For my tastes, it definitely isn't needed.

Now new CPC's, hell yeah. They need wiped down, and oiled up. I usually give them a new coating of oil every year or so. I only oil the edges of the chips.

 

[BGinGA]

I'm not sure I would be overly concerned with oils from hands getting into chips... just look at all of the casino used Paulsons that are harvested by members here. You can see they've been put through a lot worse conditions than what your home game offers (at least I would hope) and I'm pretty certain none of them were pre-oiled before being put into play.

Exactly correct, and indeed, look at them -- they are disgusting. Had they been oiled prior to use, the gunk that accumulated over time would have been far less -- and very little (if any) would have been absorbed by the chips. You can 't squeeze gunk into a pore that has already been filled with mineral oil.

Nothing wrong with properly pre-oiling, and several advantages to be had by doing so.

 

[Taghkanic]

I haven’t put mine in play yet, but I suspect that after a game or two, the natural oils from players’ hand will suffice.

I’d predict it will take a lot more than a couple of games (unless you are serving barbecue ribs and encouraging people to eat them at the table without napkins).

Last winter I mixed a barrel each of unoiled Green and Red THCs into my tournament set, which had been oiled a year or more ago. After about 12+ sessions, the chips from the unoiled barrels still stick out like sore thumbs.

Anyway, Paulson colors to my eye become a lot more attractive after light oiling. The colors become distinctinctly richer. The effect is more striking with some colors than others, but I lightly oil all of mine both for color and protection.

 

[Taghkanic]

P.S. This is traditional oiling season for me... After cleaning, I use the nonintuitive but effective water-dunking method (a tiny bit of oil in warm water, submerging the chips several times in a basket).

After patting them dry, I hand rub the chips with a microfiber or other textured cloth to remove any remaining dirt and/or excess oil *while watching WSOP finals,* which are a great distraction from the tedium of the process.

 

[jazzV3]

I’d predict it will take a lot more than a couple of games (unless you are serving barbecue ribs and encouraging people to eat them at the table without napkins).

Last winter I mixed a barrel of unoiled Green and Red THCs into my tournament set, which had been oiled a year or more ago. After about 12+ sessions, the chips from the unoiled barrels still stick out like sore thumbs.

Anyway, Paulson colors to my eye become a lot more attractive after light oiling. The colors become distinctinctly richer. The effect is more striking with some colors than others, but I lightly oil all of mine both for color and protection.

You must have missed this thread: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...room-what-to-keep-in-the-freezer-for-it.43200

 

[LinkyBabe]

You can 't squeeze gunk into a pore that has already been filled with mineral oil.

I just recently cleaned a rack of filthy Silver Sevens... all of the gunk was on the outside not the inside. And I'm not against oiling... I just do it because I'm too impatient to wait for my natural oil to bring out the chip colours.

 

[BGinGA]

I just recently cleaned a rack of filthy Silver Sevens... all of the gunk was on the outside not the inside.

If you're convinced that the gunk only resides on the outside, and not in the chip pores.... then take one of those nasty Silver Seven chips, wipe down the just the outside surface with alcohol (no rubbing or soaking), and then pop it in your mouth for a good saliva soak. Yeah, I didn't think so.....

Gunk and bacteria gets into clay chip pores. Easily proven by cleaning the surface only, followed by a deeper soak/clean, which will unlock and remove more observable contaminates from chips previously thought to be 'clean'.

 

[NewB]

Would scrubbing dirty chips with a toothbrush or similar be beneficial or harm the chip if you don’t have an ultrasonic cleaner?

 

[allforcharity]

Would scrubbing dirty chips with a toothbrush or similar be beneficial or harm the chip if you don’t have an ultrasonic cleaner?

Won't harm the chip as long as what your scrubbing with (toothbrush or hand brush) does not have really abrasive bristles (i.e. metal). Hand scrubbing with gentle dish soap does work, it's just very time-consuming. Perfectly fine if you only have a few hundred chips to clean. But if you have thousands upon thousands upon thousands....

 

[LinkyBabe]

If you're convinced that the gunk only resides on the outside, and not in the chip pores.... then take one of those nasty Silver Seven chips, wipe down the just the outside surface with alcohol (no rubbing or soaking), and then pop it in your mouth for a good saliva soak. Yeah, I didn't think so.....

Gunk and bacteria gets into clay chip pores. Easily proven by cleaning the surface only, followed by a deeper soak/clean, which will unlock and remove more observable contaminates from chips previously thought to be 'clean'.

I guess the definition of "protection" has a different application for everyone. I was assuming protection from staining/mould/physical damage. If it's protection from bacteria then I'm not concerned at all as there are far worse areas of the home with bacteria buildup than home use poker chips and I'm certainly not going to oil those areas.

 

[Jeevansluck]

I just couldn't help it...

I'm an oil freak. It's in my nature. I don't know. I work with pumps, compressors and boilers most of the time. Preventive maintenance is a key part of my daily routine and pre-oiling New Jacks is what I'm doing...

So I'm posting...with pics...I literally bought my first rack...this is the just the beginning of my Jack journey. I had to buy a rack of these primary $25s to have and hold my own Jacks.

Here is before and after light, very light edge oiling. My rag is very used up. I didn't even add oil to it...

There was no obvious difference but there is some change. I don't like the white chalky look they have when I got them. Maybe that's part of the appeal of having minty new chips...but I like then shiny. Regardless of age. I'm a newbie but this is how I am developing.

 

[detroitdad]

I just couldn't help it...

I'm an oil freak. It's in my nature. I don't know. I work with pumps, compressors and boilers most of the time. Preventive maintenance is a key part of my daily routine and pre-oiling New Jacks is what I'm doing...

So I'm posting...with pics...I literally bought my first rack...this is the just the beginning of my Jack journey. I had to buy a rack of these primary $25s to have and hold my own Jacks.

Here is before and after light, very light edge oiling. My rag is very used up. I didn't even add oil to it...

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There was no obvious difference but there is some change. I don't like the white chalky look they have when I got them. Maybe that's part of the appeal of having minty new chips...but I like then shiny. Regardless of age. I'm a newbie but this is how I am developing.

I disagree. I think its a big improvement. I'm just not up to oiling more chips right now. What I can't wait for is my labels to get here so I can turn those primary one hundreds into one dollar chips!!!

 

[Moxie Mike]

I disagree. I think its a big improvement. I'm just not up to oiling more chips right now. What I can't wait for is my labels to get here so I can turn those primary one hundreds into one dollar chips!!!

You just going to label over the existing inlays or peel them?

 

[davin]

i think by taking the new chips from box and rinsing them in a colander with just warm water to take off the dust and chalk will help with chip colors transferring

 

[detroitdad]

You just going to label over the existing inlays or peel them?

I'm labeling over the inlays. Inlay replacement is way too much work for me.

 

[Jeevansluck]

i think by taking the new chips from box and rinsing them in a colander with just warm water to take off the dust and chalk will help with chip colors transferring

Will add this step to my process before the oiling step...

Can't hurt. Saves my wrists. Oiling does take it out of my wrists. Not going to lie.

 

[Moxie Mike]

I'm labeling over the inlays. Inlay replacement is way too much work for me.

I hope that works out well for you. Seems like the label might protrude above the rest of the chip.

 

[detroitdad]

I hope that works out well for you. Seems like the label might protrude above the rest of the chip.

It doesn't. There is enough of a recess to allow for this. I've done it before without issue.

 

[Jeevansluck]

With respect to the oiling of MINT uncirculated Jacks, I had to help myself to my mineral oil and rag and try a barrel if my $500s and $1000s primaries! Pretty decent results. This is one liberal application of edge oiling. Lots of compression. 12hrs drying time. Wipe clean...take snaps.

Before oil - left
After oil - right

 

[grantc54]

With respect to the oiling of MINT uncirculated Jacks, I had to help myself to my mineral oil and rag and try a barrel if my $500s and $1000s primaries! Pretty decent results. This is one liberal application of edge oiling. Lots of compression. 12hrs drying time. Wipe clean...take snaps.

Before oil - left
After oil - right
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When can we expect the $100 primary and $25 secondary oiled pics? The 5s too while your at it!

 

[Jeevansluck]

When can we expect the $100 primary and $25 secondary oiled pics? The 5s too while your at it!

I know. The crazy thing is, I'm going to do them. It occurred to me today just how many I've purchased and am yet to oil. It's a bit of a rabbit hole actually.

 

[davin]

I know. The crazy thing is, I'm going to do them. It occurred to me today just how many I've purchased and am yet to oil. It's a bit of a rabbit hole actually.

Water oil trick maybe