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What's a good breakdown for a cash set for a single table, 10-person game? I'll be getting .25/$1/$5/$20 denoms and want to cover a
.25/.50 to $1/$2 game.
 
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Without more information:

100 quarters, 300 singles, 300 $5s, 100 $20s.
 

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What's a good breakdown for a cash set for a single table, 10-person game? I'll be getting .25/$1/$5/$20 denoms and want to cover a
.25/.50 - $1/$2 spread.

starting stacks?

125 x .25
400 x 1 (normally I would say two hundred, but you'll need more for the 1/2 spread)
200 x 5 (again, would be less, but the spread game screws everything up)
100 x 20

I don't play or host a spread game. I'm sure somebody will have a better breakdown.
 

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starting stacks?

125 x .25
400 x 1 (normally I would say two hundred, but you'll need more for the 1/2 spread)
200 x 5 (again, would be less, but the spread game screws everything up)
100 x 20

I don't play or host a spread game. I'm sure somebody will have a better breakdown.

I could be wrong but I think he meant a spread of stakes between 25¢/50¢ to $1/$2, not spread limit - I've usually seen spread limit games with a larger spread than $1-$2.
 

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What's a good breakdown for a cash set for a single table, 10-person game? I'll be getting .25/$1/$5/$20 denoms and want to cover a
.25/.50 - $1/$2 spread.

NLHE only? Other games? You didn't set a chip-cap so let's go with:

200 x 25c
300 x $1
800 x $5
200 x $20
 

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for the quarter game:
100x .25
130x $1
120 x $5
50x $20

for the dollar game
100x $1
130x $5
100x $20
20x $100 (I recommend)

for both games and even racks:
100x .25
150x $1
150x $5
100x $20
20x $100 (I recommend... then get rid of 20x $5)
 

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I could be wrong but I think he meant a spread of stakes between 25¢/50¢ to $1/$2, not spread limit - I've usually seen spread limit games with a larger spread than $1-$2.

This, should have worded it right lol. After doing some math I'm looking at 600 chips. The $100 I'm doing plaques, for no need for chips there.

Also, on a side note, what's the usual delivery time from CPC?
 
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This, should have worded it right lol. After doing some math I'm looking at 600 chips. The $100 I'm doing plaques, for no need for chips there.

Also, on a side note, what's the usual delivery time from CPC?

100, 200, 200, 100 then. You can consider moving some of the $20s into the singles or $5s, if full racks aren't a requirement. Plaques should keep the bank large enough.
 

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I think when I was getting my cash set, same stakes .25/.50 up to 1/2 I settled with:

200 - .25
300 - $1
400 - $5
80 - $25
20 - $100

1000 chips
 

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My default for one table flexible NL set is:

100 x 25¢
200 x $1s
400+ x $5s
80+ x $20s (or $25s)
20 x $100s

I like a lot of $5s on the table, even for my 25¢/50¢ which plays bigger than the blinds suggest. So 400 x $5s is kinda the minimum for me. I'd add more $5s and more $20s if you plan to play $1/$2 often.
 

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Never underestimate your quarters. Always get enough of them.. sucks always making change for blinds
Get at least 140 of them for a10 person game

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I disagree... and this is an area where there are two school's of thought. I personally hate having too many small denominations. Specifically because they seem to all end up in a couple people's stacks. People start betting stacks of quarters instead of a few singles or fives... just to get rid of them.

I like to have 8-10 quarters per player on average.
 

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I disagree... and this is an area where there are two school's of thought. I personally hate having too many small denominations. Specifically because they seem to all end up in a couple people's stacks. People start betting stacks of quarters instead of a few singles or fives... just to get rid of them.

I like to have 8-10 quarters per player on average.

I'm with you there Shaggy... 100 fracs per table is perfect imo... I could go up to 120 per table, 12 per player but I like even racks! :)
 

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If you're limited to 600 chips, I'd get the following:

120 - 25¢
200 - $1
200 - $5
80 - $20
600 - total bank of $2,830 without the plaques (assuming you'd be getting 20-40 of those to cover a larger $1/$2 game)

Gives you the following starting stacks for 10 players:

25¢/50¢
12 - 25¢
17 - $1
8 - $5
37 - $60

50¢/$1
12 - 25¢
17 - $1
18 - $5
2 - $20
49 - $150

$1/$2
20 - $1
20 - $5
4 - $20
1- $100
4 - $300

Rebuys in $5s, $20s & $100s. depending on the game
 

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Not that I'm necessarily limited to 600 chips, just that I have allotted $1500 towards them. If need be I'll stretch those dollars a bit to 800 chips.
 
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I'm in the 100 25¢ camp.

Considering your getting $100 plaques I would go this route.

100x25¢
200x$1
220x$5
80x$20

If you can stretch it to more I would add to the $5s.
 

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So the general consensus is to pad the 1s and 5s more and less of the 25¢s and $20s?
 

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Yep - 100 quarters is plenty for a single table. Your workhorse chips will be $1's and $5's (depending on the game). With $100 plaques available, you may even get by with just a barrel of $20s, making this your best arrangement for 600 chips:

100 x 25c
240 x $1
240 x $5
20 x $20
 

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So my latest poker group has developed into a micro-stakes quarter game - we started at .25/.50, but settled into .125/.25. So it's a two-bit game, and we're comfortable there.

I bought a good stock of cheapie chips and have been playing with what to keep in the rack. I've been using orange 50-cent chips as "half-quarters" or "bits," for the small blind, and it's worked fine.

I've been playing with the rack, tweaking from week to week, changing what goes into the 600-piece game night case - it fits exactly 600 chips with three spacers in each row. I used to play 200 quarters and tried to get the small chips to the table quickly, so they're in play for change-making... but there were too many quarters, and they accumulate at the winners' seats, so I wanted to play with holding them back a little longer. The last two games have fallen in a "sweet spot."

The following has turned out to work really well:

I rack twelve pre-set "frac stacks" of:
4 x 12.5¢
10 x 25¢
2 x $1

So a frac stack of 16 chips is $5. That's a total of 48 bits and 120 quarters in the rack, in the first four tubes. (I removed the rest of the quarts and bits from the rack.)

Next in the rack are my remaining $1 chips, 200 in the set total - 24 in the frac stacks, the rest spacered out as stacks of 20 (except for the oddball 16.)

Next is 200 $5 chips for value chips, spacered to stacks of 20 and 10.

Last is a barrel of $25 for bank reserve.

Total in the rack: 588 chips, $1700 bank.

Last night we had eight players; we buy in anywhere from $20 to $50 (it's actually open, but that's what everyone does.) I treat buy-ins the same:
One frac stack, ($5).
Singles, up to 20 ($25).
Fives, for the rest.

The ten quarters per person played fine... but, of course, they drifted to the winners, and some people had to rebuy. If someone wanted to top up and had small change, I fed them fives. If they busted out, I rebought them with a frac stack (for four of the rebuys.) It really worked out very well; the people most needing fracs bought them.

We picked up a ninth player and soon had had all the fracs and the singles in play, and it played very well. We were never in danger of getting to the $25s. We were never "short" quarters; if we had more, the winners would just be accumulating too many. Instead, we kept bringing in fives, and people would get a $5 frac stack off the leaders.

If we go back up to a .25/.50 game, we won't need as many quarters, and won't need the bits - but that frac stacks work wonderfully for buy-ins. I'll set up twelve $5 frac stacks with 8 quarters and three singles. Whoever runs low on quarters first is probably re-buying first, and I'll send frac stacks at 'em. 96 quarters total, and it should be plenty - the min raise already takes you up to $1.
 
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How about:

600 chips

100 x 25¢
220 x 1
220 x 5
60 x 20

700 chips

100 x 25¢
260 x 1
300 x 5
40 x 20

?

700 will allow for the storage for plaques as well.
 

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I'm a little different from your totals for my set... however I'm not an expert in this :) :

700 chips

205 x 25 cent
300 x $1
150 x $5
40 x $20
5 x $100
 

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I asked this same question on CT years ago and there was a long discussion. I wanted to keep to 600, but ended up with 800, as it was the most flexible. For an 800 chip set, here is my advice (and this assumes you must have full racks):

The true workhorse chip is the $5. 1s are important, too, but not nearly as important as the $5s. For a single table, 200 x $1 is plenty. At stakes from .25/.50 to 1/2, most betting PF will be in $1-5 multiples, and post flop pretty much all betting will be in $5 increments.

For fracs, you only will need them for blinds. Even at .25/.50, all PF betting will be in $1-5 amounts. 100 x .25 is plenty for a single table. They will migrate around the table, and making change doesn't slow down the game at all. Do what Abby does: the first five players get a stack of fracs, and all other players make change from them. After an orbit or so, the quarters will be distributed around.

Therefore, as noted above, you need to maximize the $5s. In this case, 400 x $5.

That leaves you 100 x $20 ($25), in case the game gets big. However, I'd skip the plaques and get 80 x $20 and 20 x $100.

This results in:

100 x .25
200 x $1
400 x $5
80 x $20
20 x $100

The above is exactly the breakdown I went with for my PNY set.

If you're only able to get 600 chips, for maximum flexibility you're going to have to get comfortable with not having full racks. In order to maximize workhorse chips while still having ease of play, I'd change the breakdown to this:

80 x .25
160 x $1
260 x $5
80 x $20
20 x $100

You can fill out the racks in the future as your game grows. But I'd bite the bullet and just get 800.
 

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I asked this same question on CT years ago and there was a long discussion. I wanted to keep to 600, but ended up with 800, as it was the most flexible. For an 800 chip set, here is my advice (and this assumes you must have full racks):

The true workhorse chip is the $5. 1s are important, too, but not nearly as important as the $5s. For a single table, 200 x $1 is plenty. At stakes from .25/.50 to 1/2, most betting PF will be in $1-5 multiples, and post flop pretty much all betting will be in $5 increments.

For fracs, you only will need them for blinds. Even at .25/.50, all PF betting will be in $1-5 amounts. 100 x .25 is plenty for a single table. They will migrate around the table, and making change doesn't slow down the game at all. Do what Abby does: the first five players get a stack of fracs, and all other players make change from them. After an orbit or so, the quarters will be distributed around.

Therefore, as noted above, you need to maximize the $5s. In this case, 400 x $5.

That leaves you 100 x $20 ($25), in case the game gets big. However, I'd skip the plaques and get 80 x $20 and 20 x $100.

This results in:

100 x .25
200 x $1
400 x $5
80 x $20
20 x $100

The above is exactly the breakdown I went with for my PNY set.

If you're only able to get 600 chips, for maximum flexibility you're going to have to get comfortable with not having full racks. In order to maximize workhorse chips while still having ease of play, I'd change the breakdown to this:

80 x .25
160 x $1
260 x $5
80 x $20
20 x $100

You can fill out the racks in the future as your game grows. But I'd bite the bullet and just get 800.

^^^ FTW!!!!
 

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So to slightly hijack this thread...I want my chipset to also cover a .25/.50 to $1/$2 game, but I am looking to buy 1000 chips. My chip denominations are .25/$1/$5/$25/$100/$500.

I was thinking along the lines of:

.25 - 100
$1 - 200
$5 - 500
$25 - 140
$100 - 40
$500 - 20

Does this look about right? Not sure on the $25/$100/$500 breakdown.
 

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So to slightly hijack this thread...I want my chipset to also cover a .25/.50 to $1/$2 game, but I am looking to buy 1000 chips. My chip denominations are .25/$1/$5/$25/$100/$500.

I was thinking along the lines of:

.25 - 100
$1 - 200
$5 - 500
$25 - 140
$100 - 40
$500 - 20

Does this look about right? Not sure on the $25/$100/$500 breakdown.

Looks pretty f'ing good to me Chippy...

If I was just to nitpick, I'd do 100/200/500/100/80/20 instead personally for a bit bigger bankroll (Guinness' in town!) and more even racks... But your breakdown is pretty great for a flexible one-table big bet game...
 
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I asked this same question on CT years ago and there was a long discussion. I wanted to keep to 600, but ended up with 800, as it was the most flexible. For an 800 chip set, here is my advice (and this assumes you must have full racks):

The true workhorse chip is the $5. 1s are important, too, but not nearly as important as the $5s. For a single table, 200 x $1 is plenty. At stakes from .25/.50 to 1/2, most betting PF will be in $1-5 multiples, and post flop pretty much all betting will be in $5 increments.

For fracs, you only will need them for blinds. Even at .25/.50, all PF betting will be in $1-5 amounts. 100 x .25 is plenty for a single table. They will migrate around the table, and making change doesn't slow down the game at all. Do what Abby does: the first five players get a stack of fracs, and all other players make change from them. After an orbit or so, the quarters will be distributed around.

Therefore, as noted above, you need to maximize the $5s. In this case, 400 x $5.

That leaves you 100 x $20 ($25), in case the game gets big. However, I'd skip the plaques and get 80 x $20 and 20 x $100.

This results in:

100 x .25
200 x $1
400 x $5
80 x $20
20 x $100

The above is exactly the breakdown I went with for my PNY set.

If you're only able to get 600 chips, for maximum flexibility you're going to have to get comfortable with not having full racks. In order to maximize workhorse chips while still having ease of play, I'd change the breakdown to this:

80 x .25
160 x $1
260 x $5
80 x $20
20 x $100

You can fill out the racks in the future as your game grows. But I'd bite the bullet and just get 800.


Thanks E, I probably will wind up going the 800 chip route, just to have full racks.
 

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One more point: GET EXTRAS. CPC is pretty good about throwing a few extras in, but make sure you're covered by ordering at least 5 extra of every denomination, in case of Murphy. You will not regret it.
 
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