My first chip design

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I've wanted to get a set of real clay chips since I first experienced playing with them early in my poker career. Couldn't afford them at that time, so I ended up going with ceramics in order to have a cheaper way to purchase enough chips to enable me to run multi-table tournaments. Now that I'm older and richer(!), I now have the funds to create my very own custom clay chips and I knew exactly where to go: classicpokerchips.com!

My design is not exactly groundbreaking or anything. I suppose I'm a fairly conservative person, so my chips sort of reflect that. I will have to hire an artist to do the inlay. What I have there now is just a placeholder to get an idea of how the chips would look all together.

Can't wait to get these ordered up and into my hands. In the meantime, I'll keep posting on this thread as progress is made in my design.

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And for those interested in the evolution of the design, here is the original set of chips that I was going to order. That was, until I got an actual quote for this set, which set my hair on fire! I had underestimated the cost of the set because I had applied the wrong "Level" to each chip design, thus necessitating the need to go to a much simpler design, which you can see above.

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I think you have too many dark colors, try using a lighter blue and green as the base for the the 1 and 25
 

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I think you have too many dark colors, try using a lighter blue and green as the base for the the 1 and 25
It's true. It's definitely a dark set. Of course, that's the colors I like. I'm not really a fan of brightly-colored chips!

Naturally, I could see how the chips might meld together into one big blob in a person's eyesight. And if anyone who is colorblind happens to play in my game, fuhget'boutit!

I'm going to stick with this for now, at least until I get the artist's feedback. More than likely, he/she will tell me the same thing! :D
 

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I think you have too many dark colors, try using a lighter blue and green as the base for the the 1 and 25

This x1000. Get a color sample set if you dont have one. With lots of dark colored chips there's going to be a lot of confusion in chip stacks.
 

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Here's a gander at adding a few lighter chip colors. Not sure how I like it. Didn't want to go any further lighter with the green, as the lighter shades of that color are unappealing to mine eyes.

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You should do whatever you feel you like the best, with that being said, definitely get samples if you dont have them already. I completely changed my colors when I saw the colors in person.

And you are going to naturally receive lots of comments about differentiating colors between chips, too many dull/dark colors could be confusing or cause dirty stacks. The same would be said if you were using all light colors.

It would be worth your while to probably have your inlay designed first then tinker with the colors and edgespots. You can have a general idea, but they are going to change drastically once you have decided on an inlay.

Also, go look at some of the mock ups here http://www.pokerchipforum.com/forums/chip-mockup-and-design.29/

just my 2c
 

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Post 7 is much improved. Get the samples!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The differences between red, retro red, mardarin red, etc. have to be seen in person to make final choices. Did I say get the samples?
 

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You should do whatever you feel you like the best, with that being said, definitely get samples if you dont have them already. I completely changed my colors when I saw the colors in person.

And you are going to naturally receive lots of comments about differentiating colors between chips, too many dull/dark colors could be confusing or cause dirty stacks. The same would be said if you were using all light colors.

It would be worth your while to probably have your inlay designed first then tinker with the colors and edgespots. You can have a general idea, but they are going to change drastically once you have decided on an inlay.

Also, go look at some of the mock ups here http://www.pokerchipforum.com/forums/chip-mockup-and-design.29/

just my 2c

Thanks for the advice. It's much appreciated.
 

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The green is100x better IMO.

You could try regular blue for the $1.

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Here's a pic of blue and mandarin red together
 

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I also would not use the red spots on the blue chip since the next denom is red. Try using some of the other blue colors as spots.
 

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I also would not use the red spots on the blue chip since the next denom is red. Try using some of the other blue colors as spots.

Yeah, I created a set that did just that, as well as turning the green chip into a half dark green/half dayglo green design. I like it. Tweaked the hundy too to play off the darker/lighter color theme of the other chips. This set looks pretty tight to me:

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Holy cow, I REALLY like that green chip. Nice.

And it will be inexpensive, to boot!

Yeah, cost actually *is* a consideration in my design. It's not that I don't have the money, it's all about how much of that money can I spend on poker chips and not have the wife disown me! :) My initial quote was ~$1,700 for 560 chips. I've gotten it down under $1,000 now and the new green chip is one level cheaper, so even more savings!
 

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If you don't want to own samples, offer to pay shipping and leave a deposit - I'll be another chipper lets you borrow their set.

Good advice, thanks. I've seen people post offers like that a few times. Maybe I can catch one.
 

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Yeah, cost actually *is* a consideration in my design. It's not that I don't have the money, it's all about how much of that money can I spend on poker chips and not have the wife disown me! :) My initial quote was ~$1,700 for 560 chips. I've gotten it down under $1,000 now and the new green chip is one level cheaper, so even more savings!


My advice is to get what you want. You'll have them for life. Getthe spots you want or you'll be kicking yourself in a few years when maybe saving a few hundred is meaningless.
 

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Think this is a cash set, correct me if wrong, but does the game really support a $100 chip? You'll already have $25's and why not spend the money on a higher level on one of the other chips vs an additional chip?
 

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Probably just me but I'm not a fan of the inlay design... too much orange? too busy? draws away from the chip colors? Spots patterns? I'm all about the "dark" but I might suggest turning this over to a J5 designer and use a black over white or white over black to keep the "darkness" of the inlay but emphasis the GREAT chip colors....
 

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Definitely get a color sample set from CPC. It helps a lot. And I also advice you to hire J5 for the inlay job. You will be pleased. Guaranteed.

As for the blue and green color. Try the middle colors. I like your edgespot progression.
 

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Don't spend hundreds of dollars without first having true color examples in-hand. Same goes for the mold choice; not all CPC molds look/sound/feel alike -- after getting mold samples, you may find that you really prefer a mold you hadn't previously considered, or can't stand a mold that you initially thought looked cool.

Color samples and mold samples are king.

Regarding your total expenditure, look at it from a per-year usage standpoint -- those extra dollars spent now (getting what you really want and not settling for something just because it's cheaper) will really pay off in the long-term. To help control initial costs, just don't order chips that will never see play -- you can always add-on later (when you are even ~more~ rich!).

Oh, and don't rush the process. Take your time, and get it right. Ask for and listen to some of the great advice available here from folks who have been down that road before (some several times).
 

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I'm a big proponent of get what you want the first time. Now if the new spots still get you jazzed then great. If not I would personally probably take a bit longer and save up for it. This is one of those lifetime investment things. If you get it right you will never regret it and get a ton of mileage.

Oh, and everything else everyone said above!

Samples!!!!
 

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My advice is to get what you want. You'll have them for life. Getthe spots you want or you'll be kicking yourself in a few years when maybe saving a few hundred is meaningless.

Well, it's all a balance. If I can find a design that is cheaper and still aesthetically pleasing, then there's no reason not to go for the cheaper design.

And really, clay chips are so enjoyable to play with that having one or two colored edgespots instead of 3 or 4 won't make any material difference in my overall level of satisfaction.
 

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Definitely get a color sample set from CPC. It helps a lot. And I also advice you to hire J5 for the inlay job. You will be pleased. Guaranteed.

As for the blue and green color. Try the middle colors. I like your edgespot progression.

Can you tell me how to get in contact with J5? I've seen his name on the forum before. I definitely need help with the inlay design.
 

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Can you tell me how to get in contact with J5? I've seen his name on the forum before. I definitely need help with the inlay design.
Send a private message to johnny5. I understand that he's a little back logged so you may have to wait a little.worth it though.
 

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Think this is a cash set, correct me if wrong, but does the game really support a $100 chip? You'll already have $25's and why not spend the money on a higher level on one of the other chips vs an additional chip?

Yes, this is a cash game set. I already have a tournament set of chips that are ceramic and do the job well enough. I use that set for cash games now, just dividing chip values by 100, but it's always been my dream to acquire a clay set of chips.

The usual cash game we play is $1/$2 NL with a $200 max buy-in, although we will occasionally play $1/$3 with a $300 buy-in, depending on people's preference. I want enough chips to support two tables, so up to 20 players. This chipset has a bit over $9,000 in face value, so that would cover 2 buy-ins for 20 people.

I'm actually considering adding a 25 cent chip to the order so I can also support the "small stakes" game that we also sometimes play (.25c/.50c NL, $50 max buy-in).

I'm not worried about getting the absolute best chip that I can dream of, I'm more interested in getting an entire set that I am happy with. I don't mind losing a color or an edge spot here or there in order to make the set as a whole more affordable. Like I said, that last design iteration looked really good to me and the fact that it's cheaper is just icing on the cake to me.
 

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Probably just me but I'm not a fan of the inlay design... too much orange? too busy? draws away from the chip colors? Spots patterns? I'm all about the "dark" but I might suggest turning this over to a J5 designer and use a black over white or white over black to keep the "darkness" of the inlay but emphasis the GREAT chip colors....

Yeah, the inlay design is just a placeholder. I have no art skills at all, so I'm looking to hire a designer to make this inlay professional-looking.

Initially, I was thinking that a black background would be best for the inlay, but now I'm thinking that a white background might be best, especially in order to make the chip denominations clearly legible. As well, my idea for the flaming skulls is that the fire on each would have a different color that matched the color of the particular chip it's on (so blue fire for the blue chip, red fire for the red chip, etc.).

I think I'll avoid any further personalization, with the only addition perhaps spelling out the denomination value. But really, I'll just follow the artist's advice, whatever he says.
 
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