Morals, ethics, legalities or hardcore chip harvesting. (2 Viewers)

[Godzilla28]

Not sure they'd want them back after knowing where they've been...

Some OxyClean and elbow grease....good as new.

 

[davislane]

Mofos at the cage have me a stern warning not to bring these home. Oh well, chippers gotta chip.

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nice. some bud jones with glitter ring. more options for BJ mixed sets

 

[mipevi]

Mofos at the cage have me a stern warning not to bring these home. Oh well, chippers gotta chip.

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That’s a pretty good deal, I’m sure they cost well above $1/chip at the Bud Jones store.

 

[Nanook]

Card counting is using your intellect and learned skills to beat the house and they don’t like that. But I don’t think it’s cheating.

Your statement is true, but at the same time they have the right to ask you to leave or deny you access to their game if they want, and that is exactly what they will do if they catch you counting in Black Jack

 

[upNdown]

The notion that card counters are cheaters is the biggest joke.

The casino doesn’t allow card counting.
Doing something that’s prohibited to gain an edge - you don’t have to call it cheating if you don’t want to, but now you’re just arguing semantics.

 

[CrazyEddie]

Lol. Here's hoping the casinos don't enter your face into facial recognition systems and track you in other casinos as a known 'chip harvester'.

I know a guy who counts cards in blackjack, and he's tagged in the system for Caesar's properties. He said if he even stands near a blackjack table for a few minutes they'll approach him and ask him to leave. He was once playing blackjack in some other non-Harrah's casino, and said the security staff approached him and asked him to (made him) leave the blackjack table. Although he's free to play poker or baccarat or any other table game.

Could be worse. Your friend could have a notorious and unsavory reputation.

 

[CrazyEddie]

Which annoys the hell out of me. Without debating the moralities of card counters, the casino considers them to be cheating. But they don’t mind putting these people who they consider to be cheaters on our poker tables.

The casino knows full well it's not cheating (they once argued that it was but lost that argument in court). But that's not important. What matters is they know it's unprofitable, and they're well within their rights to refuse service to people they know are going to cost them money.

Gambling is for idiots, fools, and thrill-seekers who are ready and willing to lose money. Casinos are in the business of taking their money, not giving it away.

 

[upNdown]

The casino knows full well it's not cheating

I’m not talking about the act of counting cards. I’m talking about doing it with the knowledge that the casino doesn’t allow it.

 

[CrazyEddie]

Could be worse. Your friend could have a notorious and unsavory reputation.

Also, quick reminder that Casino is based on actual people and events with very little changed but the names. Here's Robert DeNiro's "character" getting banned as well, years after Joe Pesci's "character" was:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1988-12-05-8802220026-story.html

Probably the funniest name change made for the film was moving Chicago to Kansas City.

 

[CrazyEddie]

I’m not talking about the act of counting cards. I’m talking about doing it with the knowledge that the casino doesn’t allow it.

Fair enough. I'm not sure that it's possible to disallow it, even conceptually, nor semantically sensible to consider it cheating. But it's certainly not worth arguing the point.

 

[Highli99]

These look pretty good. Might be worth the bounty value

 

[OneBrow]

It is the hi-jacking of the word "harvesting" that I am poking fun at. To see the word co-opted in this manner after growing up in a farming community where kids, including myself, worked on farms bringing in the harvest is the epitome of white privilege.

Urban privilege, perhaps. So, are you saying "gleaning" would be a better term than "harvesting"? Your post seems extreme for that point.