Miscellaneous sample chips for sale. (1 Viewer)

[David Spragg]

While I was at the factory last month I experimented with a few things that will never make it to production or be available to the public. I have a few spares available. All duplicates are shown, there are no extras. Prices marked include shipping from the UK. Shoot me an email if you are interested.

There are 4 color 1/8 Pies & 4 color 1/4 Pies. These all take multiple slugs to make and half of them fell apart before final pressing. Therefore they would cost up to $20 each to produce so we won't be
I did actually manage to make myself an 8 color 1/8 Pie but it took me about 20 goes.

Also a test of the roulette mold (reserved for casinos) and I tried a few cups from a mold that I thought was the smooth no mold but turned out to be a rounded edge mold maybe for lammers/markers (slightly undersize). Those didn't press very well, possibly because they were intended to make something thinner than a regular chip.

All 1/8 pies are sold.
1st & 3rd 1/4 pies are sold (middle one left)
One roulette sold.
One yellow no mold sold
Both brown no mold sold.

 

[toad94]

Those look great! Too bad they are too difficult to make in quantity.

 

[Toby]

Those look great! Too bad they are too difficult to make in quantity.

Yeah I'd love a 1/6 pie!

 

[David Spragg]

Yeah I'd love a 1/6 pie!

No way of making a 1/6. I tried.

 

[Mr Tree]

Would you ever consider the 1/8 pie or just too difficult?

 

[David Spragg]

Would you ever consider the 1/8 pie or just too difficult?

I already said it is too difficult. Every single part has to be made one by one. Maybe you get one chip out of 4 that works, maybe one out of 100. It took an entire day to make 25 chips.

 

[Psypher1000]

Love that 8-pie! Can't wait to add one to my collection! Thanks for offering them, David!

 

[Mr Tree]

I already said it is too difficult. Every single part has to be made one by one. Maybe you get one chip out of 4 that works, maybe one out of 100. It took an entire day to make 25 chips.

Yeah you said it but I had to make sure you meant it.

 

[Toby]

1/8 is very cool. Shame they're a no go

 

[David Spragg]

Here is the one with 8 colors. Made by halving a half pie and halving it again. Problem is the dovetails snap off more than 9 times out of 10. In an ideal world 8 slugs (one of each color) would yield 8 chips. I needed 2 to 3 of each color slug to get one chip! If I drop it, it will probably break anyway. I only did it to prove it was possible

 

[gmunny]

Hi David, i'll take one of the green pie sample for $15 and the other orange/blue pie for $15. Greg

 

[David Spragg]

Hi David, i'll take one of the green pie sample for $15 and the other orange/blue pie for $15. Greg

Ok, email me.

 

[Burke]

I'll take one of the orange and blu pie for $15 if still available

 

[David Spragg]

I'll take one of the orange and blu pie for $15 if still available

All sold, read the initial post.

 

[Burke]

Oh well. It still said 2 sold when I posted...figured gummy got the last one, but still thought it was worth a shot.

 

[David Spragg]

Oh well. It still said 2 sold when I posted...figured gummy got the last one, but still thought it was worth a shot.

Still two 1/8 greens available

 

[phaze12]

Email sent

 

[Mr Hanky]

It's always good when David is at the Factory trying "something" new
Last time i remember shaped Inlays appeared. Let's see what comes up next

 

[DJ Mack]

An interesting novelty to add to the sample display. Thanks for this!

And by the way - saying something costs up to $20 to make and therefore you won't really isn't a statement here. It's a challenge. People just paid $500+ for 20 Horseshoe $25k primaries. Granted those are mint casino Paulsons, yada yada yada. BUT, under the right circumstances I could see myself willing to pay $500 for a barrel of these four color pies as part of a larger order.

Charge what you have to charge but please don't foreclose the possibility.

 

[David Spragg]

An interesting novelty to add to the sample display. Thanks for this!

And by the way - saying something costs up to $20 to make and therefore you won't really isn't a statement here. It's a challenge. People just paid $500+ for 20 Horseshoe $25k primaries. Granted those are mint casino Paulsons, yada yada yada. BUT, under the right circumstances I could see myself willing to pay $500 for a barrel of these four color pies as part of a larger order.

Charge what you have to charge but please don't foreclose the possibility.

These are the problems...........
It cost me $20 in materials and press time to get one chip out. That is one press operator for one cycle and me spending 3 hours of my time FOC.
That does not translate to factory employees doing all the work and managing to produce one at the same price.
Also, whether they would manage to get one good chip out of 5 or 10 or 50 is pure guesswork.
We couldn't take the risk that they end up costing $50 to produce.

 

[FCCDAD]

i wonder if a 1/3 pie is possible?

or a yin-yang 1/2 pie?

 

[David Spragg]

i wonder if a 1/3 pie is possible?

or a yin-yang 1/2 pie?

i think both would fall apart.

 

[Psypher1000]

a yin-yang 1/2 pie?

Theoretically possible, but unlikely - or, if they did it, it'd probably be a pretty damn high level spot pattern. Replacing the dot in the middle of each half is a very manual task. I also question how well the exposed, tapered, pointed tails would stay in place for punching. That alone could render such a pattern unacheivable w/their current processes.

Not to mention the cost of getting the punches made in the first place...

 

[FCCDAD]

Theoretically possible, but unlikely - or, if they did it, it'd probably be a pretty damn high level spot pattern. Replacing the dot in the middle of each half is a very manual task. I also question how well the exposed, tapered, pointed tails would stay in place for punching. That alone could render such a pattern unacheivable w/their current processes.

Not to mention the cost of getting the punches made in the first place...

what i was thinking of was simply the two half circles in opposite directions from the center, without the center "dots".

i freely admit that i don't know much about how they get from a raw sheet of clay to a coherent chip. to my mind, it seems like the same side pressures that hold the normal spots in place and make a single solid chip should be able to work (at least for the 1/3 pie. i mean, can he use a lightning-bolt style zigzag 3 times or is a full dovetail required?)

 

[David Spragg]

Theoretically possible, but unlikely - or, if they did it, it'd probably be a pretty damn high level spot pattern. Replacing the dot in the middle of each half is a very manual task. I also question how well the exposed, tapered, pointed tails would stay in place for punching. That alone could render such a pattern unacheivable w/their current processes.

Not to mention the cost of getting the punches made in the first place...

You need a dovetail or some 'non smooth' shaping. Ok for an inlaid chip which would cover up the join but no good for a plain chip.

 

[jbutler]

...and I tried a few cups from a mold that I thought was the smooth no mold but turned out to be a rounded edge mold maybe for lammers/markers (slightly undersize). Those didn't press very well, possibly because they were intended to make something thinner than a regular chip.

Funny - when I first approached Jim about possibly using the smooth no mold way back when, I did so on the assumption that the smooth no mold rendered rounded edge chips. Only when we spoke did he explain to me that the smooth no mold produced regular square edge chips. I wonder if he was even aware that he had this round edge mold back then (or maybe he didn't and it was acquired sometime after our circa 2009 conversation).

No chance of making chips on this mold in quantity? I do rather dig it.

 

[David Spragg]

Funny - when I first approached Jim about possibly using the smooth no mold way back when, I did so on the assumption that the smooth no mold rendered rounded edge chips. Only when we spoke did he explain to me that the smooth no mold produced regular square edge chips. I wonder if he was even aware that he had this round edge mold back then (or maybe he didn't and it was acquired sometime after our circa 2009 conversation).

No chance of making chips on this mold in quantity? I do rather dig it.

We only have a couple of good cups, not a mold full. And they are only about 37mm diameter and half the thickness of a regular chip.

 

[jbutler]

We only have a couple of good cups, not a mold full. And they are only about 37mm diameter and half the thickness of a regular chip.

Gotcha, interesting - thanks. I was thinking something more along the lines of a standard thickness 39mm chip like many of the old round edge BPOE crest and seals. I wonder where those molds got off to.

 

[David Spragg]

Gotcha, interesting - thanks. I was thinking something more along the lines of a standard thickness 39mm chip like many of the old round edge BPOE crest and seals. I wonder where those molds got off to.

Those chips were made by USPC not Burt Co.
These cups I used were obviously designed to make lammers not chips.

 

[chipjoker]

Ill take the first 1/4 pie