Milling THC new setup journey and sticker mule experience. DESERT INN (1 Viewer)

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So I had a bunch of THC solids that didn’t fit into any of my main sets, but I realized they made a pretty cool looking vintage set all by themselves.

I wanted to redo my milling rig before I drilled my minty THC big tourney set, and saw someone here using this drill press attachment. It’s really cool, I LOVE THE MICRO ADJUSTMENT DAILS. It allows you to adjust for different chips without having to loosen up the main stuff. GAME CHANGER.

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Never tried sticker mule and the order is in. Checking the proofs today. I had made these Oldschool vibe desert in because that was the first casino I went to as a kid. My grandparents were regulars there.

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And now the milling PRON.

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In terms of the milling setup, I have always been fighting for better centering. More consistent centering.
It’s not that I am a perfectionist, they are still a little off occasionally, but this runs was by far my best.

A problem I ran into before was how different chips were based on wear… and literally every time I would loosen any of the setup screws to reset, it would just take waaaaaayyy too long to get it back to center. It was discouraging.

This drill press attachment helps that situation immensely.

Another thing about the milling rig. I redid my chip holder thing. What I had before worked okay for mint chips, but even slightly worn chips were too loose, also I had a pretty thick piece of rubber sandwiched in as a floor, and it would actually “give” a bit and I could feel it flex under the chip when I applied the pressure.

I used this cheap thin silicone baking sheet from Amazon this time, it still stops the chip from spinning, but it’s doesn’t have any give, the chip reacts better. Pressure is more consistent.

I made the chip holder out of two pieces of 1/8 thick walnut hardwood I had laying around. I used a hole saw to cut the area for the chip. I used a file to widen it to near perfect, but then it was slightly too big .

Even a millimeter of play in the chip holder recess creates non centered cuts.

I think this was a pretty good solution. To “perfect” the chip holder area I used masking tape, to tighten the inner edges of the hole, stacking a couple layers where I thought it wasn’t a perfect circle.

This method would also allow me to add a bit more tape when it’s time to mill some bike tires. (Ahem..cough Sahara dunes 1s)

All in all, this run was the least annoying time I have had.

Pushed out a racks in less than 25mins, with no frustrations.

I use a brush to wipe out dust and debris often, even a few filings lodged in between the chip and the walls can off center the cut.

Looking at ways to keep the shop vac running and sucking up debris consistently.

I keep my blade really close to the jig, and I just leave it running as a work, I found the longer the throw, the less consistent the work was and it’s a lot faster overall with a short throw.

It’s hard to maneuver the chips in and out with this short space, and I hit my fingers occasionally on the moving bit, but not the knife portion, so it just gives you little buzz. Probably not the safest way, but for me, it’s the fastest and the best. Just takes concentration.

I use my left hand thumb, to hold the free end of the chip, and can purposefully affect the slight placement of the cut with the pressure I apply with my thumb. (Sometimes good, sometimes not so good :) but once you are in this dance, where you are literally trying to hit a perfect millimeter placement, literally everything mattters. :)

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Sticker Mule situation was good so far. 1200 stickers, $97 after shipping. They quote delivery 7 days from today.

I designed the labels in photoshop, I need 7/8 … 0.875 inch stickers.

I specified this, and I got “the minimum size is 1” but if the cut is easy we might be able to do it” email.
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They saw the “regular circle CUTLINE” and agreed to 7/8th.

I had 4 files for 4 denominations, I had 1 inch HI-RES files WITH A LAYER IN THE PHOTOSHOP FILE NAME “CUTLINE”
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The “CUTLINE” file was a light pink circle that measured 7/8k of an inch and was a SEPERATE LAYER

I told them all about this in the email. It’s supposedly how print shops deal with automated cutters, but honestly, they were so helpful I think they would have figured it out even if I had just a basic design.

But I had the extra bleed area, and I had the cut line to show them, so they made a layout for me.

What they figure out for you is the most economical way to print what you need. I needed 1200 stickers, they figured out how to fit 120 per sheet on 10 sheets. And how to break that down per sheet.

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Laying this out, this is what I didn’t know how to do. They did it in 5 mins. They also told me they slightly resized it a bit smaller to make sure it didn’t cut the graphics
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Way easier than I thought it would be.
Pleasure so far.

When the stickers come in I’ll do a litttle review.

But 1200\$97 is .08 cents a pop. And that’s about as much as I want to spend, I wish I could afford GEAR textured laminated, but I can’t. :( not for these chips anyways…
 
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Looks like Amanda at Sticker Mule better get her game face on....she about to get flooded with requests for stickers less than 1" that she made you the "exception" for! :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

I can hear the conversations in the Sticker Mule break room..."Anyone else notice all the new orders for 7/8" stickers?"
 

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Looks like Amanda at Sticker Mule better get her game face on....she about to get flooded with requests for stickers less than 1" that she made you the "exception" for! :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

I can hear the conversations in the Sticker Mule break room..."Anyone else notice all the new orders for 7/8" stickers?"

Amanda Vs Tina Cage match. Who wins?
 

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I’ve placed several orders with Stickermule. The name is a different common female name every time even though I reply to the same thread. The language is always standardized. They bill themselves as an international company so I’m 100% sure customer service is in South America or something with physical printers in various countries. Doesn’t change the buying experience really but I agree with op’s sentiment on cost and turnaround time. Thanks for sharing your journey!
 

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I’ve placed several orders with Stickermule. The name is a different common female name every time even though I reply to the same thread. The language is always standardized. They bill themselves as an international company so I’m 100% sure customer service is in South America or something with physical printers in various countries. Doesn’t change the buying experience really but I agree with op’s sentiment on cost and turnaround time. Thanks for sharing your journey!
Interesting…never considered they might be a printing broker.
 

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Interesting…never considered they might be a printing broker.
On one of my orders “Kim” basically said once it’s electronically approved and sent to the printer they can’t undo it. I’ve also worked with “Guilia, Katherine, and Angelica” when I look back lol. They use a lot of smileys and emojis too...
 

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Desert Inn set, ,cool. Thought I was the only one . I like your style
 

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In terms of the milling setup, I have always been fighting for better centering. More consistent centering.
It’s not that I am a perfectionist, they are still a little off occasionally, but this runs was by far my best.

A problem I ran into before was how different chips were based on wear… and literally every time I would loosen any of the setup screws to reset, it would just take waaaaaayyy too long to get it back to center. It was discouraging.

This drill press attachment helps that situation immensely.

Another thing about the milling rig. I redid my chip holder thing. What I had before worked okay for mint chips, but even slightly worn chips were too loose, also I had a pretty thick piece of rubber sandwiched in as a floor, and it would actually “give” a bit and I could feel it flex under the chip when I applied the pressure.

I used this cheap thin silicone baking sheet from Amazon this time, it still stops the chip from spinning, but it’s doesn’t have any give, the chip reacts better. Pressure is more consistent.

I made the chip holder out of two pieces of 1/8 thick walnut hardwood I had laying around. I used a hole saw to cut the area for the chip. I used a file to widen it to near perfect, but then it was slightly too big .

Even a millimeter of play in the chip holder recess creates non centered cuts.

I think this was a pretty good solution. To “perfect” the chip holder area I used masking tape, to tighten the inner edges of the hole, stacking a couple layers where I thought it wasn’t a perfect circle.

This method would also allow me to add a bit more tape when it’s time to mill some bike tires. (Ahem..cough Sahara dunes 1s)

All in all, this run was the least annoying time I have had.

Pushed out a racks in less than 25mins, with no frustrations.

I use a brush to wipe out dust and debris often, even a few filings lodged in between the chip and the walls can off center the cut.

Looking at ways to keep the shop vac running and sucking up debris consistently.

I keep my blade really close to the jig, and I just leave it running as a work, I found the longer the throw, the less consistent the work was and it’s a lot faster overall with a short throw.

It’s hard to maneuver the chips in and out with this short space, and I hit my fingers occasionally on the moving bit, but not the knife portion, so it just gives you little buzz. Probably not the safest way, but for me, it’s the fastest and the best. Just takes concentration.

I use my left hand thumb, to hold the free end of the chip, and can purposefully affect the slight placement of the cut with the pressure I apply with my thumb. (Sometimes good, sometimes not so good :) but once you are in this dance, where you are literally trying to hit a perfect millimeter placement, literally everything mattters. :)

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Nice work! Do you think it's necessary to take any precautions with the leaded chip dust? Was thinking about lathing chips in the future and wasn't sure if it was a valid concern.
 

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Nice work!



I still prefer the bottom router method in order to get depth consistency, but damn it does take longer. The fine chip dust is no picnic.

Yeah, I feel all of these are a bit too deep, especially for thin stickers. I don’t really “hate” a noticeable recess, but I’ve seen you guys with the router tables, and I can see how much more precision it can be. I thought of trying to rig one up, seems just overall more precise.

Can’t wait to get these stickers in :)
 

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Do you think you are cheapening the original Desert Inn chips?













Jk…..very nice set. These are going to look great!

Haha, kinda,

the few I’ve seen with Wilbur’s face are actually all spotted h-molds. The denominations are completely different. I redid them, as well as tweeked the fonts to make them more vintagey and add some texture. haha.

Does any one at all have a playable set from the Desert inn? I doubt it…

I’ve only seen singles, even on the internet. Looks like they went with plastic and ceramic in the 80s-90s .

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Nice work! Do you think it's necessary to take any precautions with the leaded chip dust? Was thinking about lathing chips in the future and wasn't sure if it was a valid concern.
I’m sure the risk is low, but definitely not zero. The dust is only a danger if it gets into your body, so it’s harmful by either breathing it or eating it.
A decent dust mask while milling is an easy precaution.
 

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Yeah, I feel all of these are a bit too deep, especially for thin stickers. I don’t really “hate” a noticeable recess, but I’ve seen you guys with the router tables, and I can see how much more precision it can be. I thought of trying to rig one up, seems just overall more precise.

Can’t wait to get these stickers in :)
I did a bunch of milling before I realized just how little needed to be removed to give adequate clearance for a label.
There were a few chips during my first milling session that I was convinced were too shallow, but they ended up being the best ones when done.
 

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Nice work! Do you think it's necessary to take any precautions with the leaded chip dust? Was thinking about lathing chips in the future and wasn't sure if it was a valid concern.


If you're using the drill press method, probably not. If you're using the bottom router method, absolutely. Respirator, goggles, ear protection.
 

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I’m sure the risk is low, but definitely not zero. The dust is only a danger if it gets into your body, so it’s harmful by either breathing it or eating it.
A decent dust mask while milling is an easy precaution.

In all honesty, the only precautions I took were opening up the garage door, and my press is right by the door, so it’s basically outside open air.

And washing my hands on breaks and right after.

Once you get started, you have to find the right speed of the press, mines set pretty slow I think and it’s more pencil sharpener like shavings that come off it. When the drill was fast, it was smaller dustier particles.

I definitely want the bigger shavings, it probably also depends on how much pressure you apply as well.

Wouldn’t hurt to wear a mask, I would if I was in a closed space.
 

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In all honesty, the only precautions I took were opening up the garage door, and my press is right by the door, so it’s basically outside open air.

And washing my hands on breaks and right after.

Once you get started, you have to find the right speed of the press, mines set pretty slow I think and it’s more pencil sharpener like shavings that come off it. When the drill was fast, it was smaller dustier particles.

I definitely want the bigger shavings, it probably also depends on how much pressure you apply as well.

Wouldn’t hurt to wear a mask, I would if I was in a closed space.
True, I found a slow speed works best, especially important because you can better control the depth of the cut. Even then, it’s SO easy to go too far.
 

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Wow, they look great. Are they made of vinyl?
Are they laminated?

Yes they are vinyl, and it looks like a thick matte laminate. I’m not positive it’s a laminate, but it seems so.

A little hard to get off the sheet.

But hot damn, the size is perfect, and I thought I drilled too deep, but nope, these stickers fill the hole nicely.

I know SM also makes a “Label” product that is thinner. Rumor is it’s good for label overs.

This “sticker sheet” product is definitely good for murdered/milled chips.
 

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I'm new here, well, a retread after a 12 year absence, and am amazed at what I'm seeing! Looking forward to heading back down this rabbit hole! Thanks for the informative thread.
 

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