Live 2/3NL - Turn action with A9s (1 Viewer)

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7 handed game.

UTG Hero raise to $15 with Ad9d.
UTG+1 calls
CO Calls
BB calls

Pot $47
Flop 9s 7d 3d
Hero bets $20
UTG+1 calls
CO calls
BB folds

Pot $107. UTG+1 has $240 left in his stack CO has $175 Hero covers both.
Turn Qc
Hero: ???
 
Im not calling UTG in most but 6max if you know the crowd, fine open.

Continue your assault, $67 to tilt the nits. Straights and lower flushes are missing, I'd prefer ending it here.
 
Three calls plus Hero's $15 = $60 Plus $2 from the SB = $62 preflop

Stack sizes matter greatly, would be helpful to make that part of the initial set up. Villain reads also matter. This is a home game, Hero knows a lot about the players.

Each decision point matters. Opening A9s UTG might not be to everyone's taste. leading 1/3 pot on the flop is worthy of discussion

Preflop - depends on villains reads and Hero's table image. Also depends on stack sizes.

Flop - $20 into $62 on the flop seems too small. More so as I finally see the stack sizes. Hero failed to plan his hand strategy when making the flop sizing decision. I think closer to full pot is better to set up a turn jam.

Pot going into the turn should be $112. Or one less player saw the flop.

Turn - villain reads matter - calling stations who never fold are different from fit/fold players. A case could be made for an over-bet jam. Or Hero could try sucking in a drawing hand who is drawing slim. < shrug > Wish the flop bets were bigger making the jam as easy choice.

DrStrange
 
Yeah messed up the math. Pot was around $60 on the flop. I figured with the strength of my hand 1/3 pot is a nice size to get value from worse hands, and if anyone raises its an easy shove. This was at a casino I dont have many reads. UTG+1 was an older asian guy, CO was a middle aged white guy. Neither were nits. Honestly not much else to go off. CO had been stacked recently and rebought, he was a fairly gambly player.

I will see if a few more people comment before posting the next hand action.
 
Hate the check but love the checker; personally I'd call as played while sighing. Low stakes, Im expecting a flush or straight draw, few times maybe an overpair trapping. I imagine they saw our check and expect us to be on a diamond draw or two high cards. 9 might be good but I imagine we have a live Ace and drawing to nut flush. Maybe Im just in a gambly mood.
 
So your going to see a very different line from me...

Whole I would like to know all the info Dr. Strange poker out, I'll give my thoughts without it.

You are OOP on two of the players in this hand and got a good flop for your exact hand, but one that is bad for your your overall early position raising range. Moreover, TP with a flush draw is one of the most misunderstood hands in Hold Em. A lot of people treat it like it's the nuts, but there's a big problem with thinking like that: you are blocking the hands that are most likely to call. IE, top pair and the nut flush draw. So when you get action (especially raises) from other players, while you can still be ahead, it's now more likely they have sets.

By taking a bet big on flop, jam on turn strategy, it makes it so only better hands call that turn jam. That's not what we want; we want to be getting called by worse draws and worse 9s, and betting huge on two streets isn't the way to do that.

I don't mind the 1/3 pot flop bet against most players. You are OOP multiway, and because in theory people can't call as light multiway (ie 2nd or 3rd pair, gutters, etc), the need to bet large isn't there. Now if this was heads up, a large bet makes more sense given this is a board where as the preflop raiser we shouldn't have hit very hard (we shouldn't have a ton of 9s except A9s, T9s, maybe 89s, we shouldn't have 44, we can't have T8 or 86), so when we don't have as many nut hands are hands that can barrel off multiple streets, we might want to bet larger just to put get more value now. And since it's here up, our opponent can call with more stuff that we can get value from given our exact hand.

In this exact spot, I do like your small bet, but I also like a check with most of your range as you will have a ton of total airballs here like every Broadway hand. The plan being to check call against most people and probably check jam against shorter stacks as your current equity against one player really can't be all that terrible. Keep in mind that a check jam looks very weird though and a thinking player would realize you wouldn't do that basically ever with something like an overpair. Meaning it looks like top set or the nut flush draw only.

As played, I don't think we can really call a 2.4x pot jam unless you think there is a chance we are ahead with a pair of 9s. UTG+1 called next to act on the flop with two players still to act behind, which is pretty strong. Then jammed into two players on the turn when a relative blank came (the only thing a Q changes is it may have given someone with a flush draw top pair). The line looks strong, and while you wouldn't think a set plays this way that often, we would need to be pretty sure we have a chance at winning unimproved to call here. So it comes down more to your read of the player.
 
@Legend5555 I agree with pretty much all of that however I think most of his sets he would raise the flop with. His range is mostly 2 pairs, flush draws or combo draws, with some sets. I tried to talk to him and get some info but he had a hoodie pulled tight and would say anything. I folded. Partly because it was my last hand and I wanted the psychological effect of booking a nice win to break out of a downswing. I think overall with how we got to the turn I would rather do the bet and call an all in on the turn line when its not 3 way.
 

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