Labeling RHC Hotstamps without Milling (3 Viewers)

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Does anyone have some examples of hotstamped RHC chips being labeled without being milled first? Is there enough depth to support a label? Do you see the stamp under the label? Any spinners?

Some of the new RHC hot stamps being used by casinos (Paris $1s, etc.) seem to be pretty shallow stamps. I have some Bally’s Chicago fracs to test this with once I find my extra labels from old projects, but figured I’d see if anyone else has examples as well.
 
I have overlabel of inlaid RHC. There is enough recess for the vinyl label. Not laminate label.


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No spinners
 
I’ve had some great results over labeling RHC inlaid chips without inlay removal as well.

The issue for me is that I have been struggling to find a great option for an inlaid chip to use, but found 3 good options for easily accessible hotstamped chips.
 
Yeah I just wanted to provide RHC inlaid sample. I had some hotstamped RHC that I put a vinyl label on but the hotstamp shows through it bc of the indentation of the stamp and the thinness of the label. I hear scraping helps but I imagine it still shows. Just get the RHC milled
 
Yeah I just wanted to provide RHC inlaid sample. I had some hotstamped RHC that I put a vinyl label on but the hotstamp shows through it bc of the indentation of the stamp and the thinness of the label. I hear scraping helps but I imagine it still shows. Just get the RHC milled
You’re actually somewhat involved in this, because it would be a replacement for the Blue Chip fracs I got from you.

I’m considering downsizing the cost of my cash set, and if I’m getting RHCs milled then it’ll end up being almost as much as those chips cost between buying the chips, having extra chips for damaged/destroyed, shipping, milling, labeling, return shipping, etc.
 
A friend here is helping me mill a couple racks of the new Paris 1s so I can turn them into HSI quarters. I think milling will vastly improve the results and worth the effort.
I know it’s a little more difficult to mill RHC due to the size of the inlay vs the common bit used for THC.

I don’t have a friend to help so I’d be looking at Gear’s services if I went that route, and I’d probably just rather keep the Blue Chip quarters as-is for about the same cost.

The only downside of the Blue Chip is that they’re leaded and the rest of the set is unleaded (Indiana Grand primary.)
 
I’d be interested in seeing a larger sample from someone, but I dug around in storage and found a grand total of 2 matte unlaminated vinyl labels.

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One chip turned out really well. Covered the stamp with little evidence of the stamp underneath.

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The other chip it was very obvious there was a stamp underneath.

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When stacking the 2 together, there was some light showing on the left side due to the labels rubbing together in the middle.

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Relatively inconclusive on such a small sample, but I would lean toward not ideal. Probably back to the drawing board I guess to either find something I can overlabel or stand pat with what I’ve got and just accept the money I’ve spent.

Still interested to see if anyone else has tried it, so if anyone else has input here please let me know how it turned out for you!
 
You can label over hot stamped chips if the hot stamp is worn smooth or nearly so. And you can only use an unlaminated label, or you will create spinners

You might be able to see and feel a regular hot stamp underneath a label, because it will try to conform to the valleys and ridges. It doesn't look good.

Best = mill and replace with a laminated label.
 
One step that might work before going full milling -- could try an X-acto knife with a flat blade/chiseling blade to see if it can scrape the hotstamp flat on the inlay. There are at least 2 widths of these chiseling blades.

(And if you have an X-acto knife but need a few of these blades, let me know. I'll send you a couple for free, for testing purposes. I bought a cheap 40-pack of the type of blade on the right below, and a 40-pack is around a 4 lifetime supply.)

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