Kill pots order of action (1 Viewer)

[Dugthefish]

When does the Killer act preflop? Looking for whatever would be considered "casino/cardroom standard".

 

[ArielVer18]

There’s no standard. I’ve seen all three options depending on the rules of the poker room.

 

[Machine]

Action begins UTG, skips Killer who has the option after all other players have acted, this crazy and not even on my native planet would we ever play this way

 

[Machine]

The kill is a type of straddle, the action would start after the kill; if the kill is in middle position having the normal progression start left of the blinds is like the guy that sets his alarm clock 15 mins fast, haha you got me, who set my clock 15 mins fast, OH that's right it was meeeee.

I'm not saying this is the only way, but its the most logical way.

Yikes, I messed that up I was thinking of playing with a 'rock', the kill posts a blind, if he folds, it is dead money in the pot, typical action, starts UTG, the killer isn't skipped he acts in turn.

I have read that the killer is skipped an acts last in some casinos, though I've never seen it, and likely wouldn't play in a game where I have to pay blinds and get screwed out of position =)

RRoP:
In a kill pot, the killer acts in proper turn (after the person on the immediate right).

 

[Rhodeman77]

I always prefer KISS. Kill acts in turn regardless of what position they are. The only exception I don’t mind is if the Kill player is UTG, then I don’t mind the Kill acting like a straddle and action starting to the left of the Kill.

But otherwise UTG acts as normal and Kill acts when the action gets to it.

 

[Moxie Mike]

I always prefer KISS. Kill acts in turn regardless of what position they are. The only exception I don’t mind is if the Kill player is UTG, then I don’t mind the Kill acting like a straddle and action starting to the left of the Kill.

But otherwise UTG acts as normal and Kill acts when the action gets to it.

Yeah man I never understood the logic of manipulating the order to give the killer last action pre. I've seen it in various casinos (I think The Orleans in Vegas ran their O8 games this way) and it just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[MemphisFats]

I have a few questions hopefully you guys can help with.

Let’s say 8 handed game.
Seat 1 button
Seat 2 small blind
Seat 3 big blind
Seat 4
Seat 5 kill blind
Seat 6 utg pre flop?
Seat 7
Seat 8


Is seat 6 utg pre flop? Does he remain utg for the rest of the hand or is seat 2 utg for flop,turn and river?

If seat 3 wins the 2 previous hands would he posts both the big blind and the kill blind?

I’ve looked online and on YouTube and can find practically nothing regarding kill pot blinds and how the action plays out. If anyone can suggest any sites or videos that would be great.

Thanks
Memphis

 

[Dugthefish]

Seat 4 would remain UTG. Seat 5 would then have the option to check or raise, and then proceed around the table as normal. Post flop, the player furthest from the button would act first, as always.

If the Killer is in the blinds, he posts only the kill blind. How we play, anyway.

 

[MemphisFats]

Seat 4 would remain UTG. Seat 5 would then have the option to check or raise, and then proceed around the table as normal. Post flop, the player furthest from the button would act first, as always.

If the Killer is in the blinds, he posts only the kill blind. How we play, anyway.

Ok, thanks. So if we were playing 25c/50c fixed limit with the kill it becomes 50c/$1

Both these scenarios are correct, yes?

Kill on from seat 5
Seat 1 button
Seat 2 small blind 15c
Seat 3 big blind 25c
Seat 4
Seat 5 kill blind 50c

Seat 4 is 1st to act, 50c call, raise to $1 or fold. Seat 5 can check, call if it’s raised in front of him or raise?


Kill on from seat 2 big blind
Seat 1 button
Seat 2 kill blind 50c
Seat 3 big blind 25c
Seat 4 1st to act, 50c call, raise to $1, or fold

In fixed it’s normally capped at 4 bets isn’t it?
So 1 bet and 3 raises?

Thanks
Memphis

 

[BEANO52]

I play with a 1/2 kill weekly+ for over 20 years (limit O8). 100% played this way in Missouri casinos

• Action begins UTG after big blind (unless that person is kill, then they are skipped)
• Action "skips" over the kill (unless it is raised then the kill acts in order)
• Kill acts last unless raised before passing over

 

[Nanook]

I always prefer KISS. Kill acts in turn regardless of what position they are. The only exception I don’t mind is if the Kill player is UTG, then I don’t mind the Kill acting like a straddle and action starting to the left of the Kill.

But otherwise UTG acts as normal and Kill acts when the action gets to it.

I have seen it different ways in different card rooms too. In my home card room we do it this way. Kill just acts in turn like they normally would.

Yeah man I never understood the logic of manipulating the order to give the killer last action pre. I've seen it in various casinos (I think The Orleans in Vegas ran their O8 games this way) and it just doesn't make sense to me.

I think they do it like this to encourage people try and become the killer. Ie. Gives more advantage to the killer encouraging more gamble/action

 

[Dugthefish]

Ok, thanks. So if we were playing 25c/50c fixed limit with the kill it becomes 50c/$1

Both these scenarios are correct, yes?

Kill on from seat 5
Seat 1 button
Seat 2 small blind 15c
Seat 3 big blind 25c
Seat 4
Seat 5 kill blind 50c

Seat 4 is 1st to act, 50c call, raise to $1 or fold. Seat 5 can check, call if it’s raised in front of him or raise?


Kill on from seat 2 big blind
Seat 1 button
Seat 2 kill blind 50c
Seat 3 big blind 25c
Seat 4 1st to act, 50c call, raise to $1, or fold

In fixed it’s normally capped at 4 bets isn’t it?
So 1 bet and 3 raises?

Thanks
Memphis

Both of those scenarios would be correct at my game. We cap at 5 bets.

 

[Roslindale]

I so want to try a kill blind in my 25c/25c game at some point soon.

Has anyone tried to institute a kill blind? What kind of reactions did you get?

@Jonstro
@glynn

 

[Mike Wells]

We just changed the rule at our club from first option to third.

 

[Roslindale]

We just changed the rule at our club from first option to third.

I was thinking that was a good way to start too.
I figured it to be like a tax... and they kill button should get something for thier contribution.