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Found this funny poker chip project on Kickstarter.

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It's weird that there are poker chip enthusiasts outside of PCF who are willing to go to such lengths to design such a set. A quick look at this project and it's obvious these guys are a bit clueless.

These guys are seemingly oblivious to common sense things like useful denoms and playable breakdowns.

I think there have been a few of these poker chip Kickstarters in the past. Iron clays come to mind.

I wish that hard candy holdem guy went ahead with his project. That was good for a laugh.
 

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It's weird that there are poker chip enthusiasts outside of PCF who are willing to go to such lengths to design such a set. A quick look at this project and it's obvious these guys are a bit clueless.

These guys are seemingly oblivious to common sense things like useful denoms and playable breakdowns.

I think there have been a few of these poker chip Kickstarters in the past. Iron clays come to mind.

I wish that hard candy holdem guy went ahead with his project. That was good for a laugh.
It’s especially funny since it’s almost impossible that one’s search doesn’t end up on PCF when doing even the slightest bit of poker chip research.
 

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raising only $1,200 (82,000 goal) is not good for the first 24hrs.

Not a terrible design but definitely not worth the money imo.

Has anyone tried hot stamping ceramics?? Its one of the "risks and challenges" listed for this project:
"Many manufacturers refused to accept our design orders due to the high manufacturing difficulties (Apply metallic gold on chips, a completely new manufacturing process to factories) "
 

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raising only $1,200 (82,000 goal) is not good for the first 24hrs.

Not a terrible design but definitely not worth the money imo.

Has anyone tried hot stamping ceramics?? Its one of the "risks and challenges" listed for this project:
"Many manufacturers refused to accept our design orders due to the high manufacturing difficulties (Apply metallic gold on chips, a completely new manufacturing process to factories) "
Sounds like a pretty terrible idea. Why would they want to do that, when you could print anything on a ceramic
 

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Maybe the next group buy needs to go through KS. That way, we all get what we want at the lowest possible price point (because you know we would probably fund it on our own, anyway) and we expose the world to what a truly world-class design can be.

Edit: I do kind of like the box, but I imagine I could get something custom from the vendors here and guarantee it would come into existence. :LOL: :laugh:
 
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I like the aesthetics of this design. I don't love it, but it's nice.

Probably 95% of the visual aesthetics that PCF members enjoy are anchored to casino designs, which are hideous. Even the really good designs - made by chipper designers like J5 and Quicksilver - are almost always intended to invoke the idea of casinos and card rooms; it's the same aesthetics, just done better.

There are some exceptions, like Noirs and Starlites and for that matter Starbursts. But they're exceptions, and in the tiny minority.

So I'm glad to see someone launching a project like this: to take advantage of the blank canvas that ceramic chips provide; to create chips for home games that don't look like they came from a casino; to stretch the design space; and to cater to people with this particular style in their palette.

Bear in mind that PCF is itself a tiny market. The average purchaser of poker chips is someone who plays very rarely but wants to have some chips around for when they do. They don't play in casinos and would hate it if they did, but they enjoy imagining that their poker game is like what they imagine casinos to be (i.e. James Bond). They know nothing about chips, and (rightly) don't care about chips very much, but they know what they like when they see it. This is a great product for the average buyer, and a heck of a lot better than the chips that the average buyer would otherwise end up with when they go to Walmart or even Discount Poker Shop to get some chips for the poker party they're planning for next weekend.

Heck, it's a pretty good product for PCF members! Ceramic chips are a well-served commodity product (sub-par brands like Scrolls and Nile Club notwithstanding) and as long as you like the graphic design you're probably going to be satisfied with the chips. A little pricy, but not outrageous - $0.60 per chip, plus $80 for a nice wooden box if you want it.
 

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Maybe the next group buy needs to go through KS. That way, we all get what we want at the lowest possible price point (because you know we would probably fund it on our own, anyway) and we expose the world to what a truly world-class design can be.
Im not too familiar with how group buys operate on here, but I'm familiar with kickstarter. Some disadvantages (or things to consider) would be:
  • Kickstarter takes 8% of the total pledged amount. (5% kickstarter, 3% payment processing)
  • Income gets reported on 1099k (unlike PPFF)
  • Kickstarter and its backers generally like new creative products. I.e. something that you cant find elsewhere or something that is better than whats already out there. Just slapping a new design on a commonly produced poker chip would not fall into this category.
I will say that this kickstarter did a pretty good job in some areas
The chips look interesting, page has great graphics, multiple types of rewards.
 

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These guys are seemingly oblivious to common sense things like useful denoms and playable breakdowns.

Buyers get to choose their own breakdown. They're offering a wide range of denoms to suit different people's games, including an NCV, which is a nice touch and not something you'd typically see. It's kinda weird that they don't include a $1 (or a quarter) BUT this is obviously being targeted at the Hong Kong market. 5 HK dollars is about 60 cents US, so that makes sense. Odd that they haven't considered the US market, though.

I think there have been a few of these poker chip Kickstarters in the past. Iron clays come to mind.

Iron Clays are actually pretty nice! Drastically overpriced, though. They're comparable to premium plastics like Matsuis, including being as slick as Matsuis. They just have an unusual visual design which doesn't appeal to PCF members, but which has done pretty well among the board gaming crowd that they were marketed to.

Has anyone tried hot stamping ceramics?? Its one of the "risks and challenges" listed for this project:
"Many manufacturers refused to accept our design orders due to the high manufacturing difficulties (Apply metallic gold on chips, a completely new manufacturing process to factories) "

They're not hotstamping, they're dye-sub printing with metallic ink. Hotstamping couldn't produce the kind of results they're shooting for - it's a very crude printing technique, whereas dye-sub is high resolution.

It'll be interesting to see if they can get metallic ink to print well.
 

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  • Kickstarter and its backers generally like new creative products. I.e. something that you cant find elsewhere or something that is better than whats already out there. Just slapping a new design on a commonly produced poker chip would not fall into this category.
Ordinarily I would agree with you on this point (it fits me to a "T") but have you seen all the different cardistry designs that are made on KS? Although decks of cards are on a different cost tier. Your point has merit, but perhaps not as an axiom.
 

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Ordinarily I would agree with you on this point (it fits me to a "T") but have you seen all the different cardistry designs that are made on KS? Although decks of cards are on a different cost tier. Your point has merit, but perhaps not as an axiom.
you're right. Theres a handful of card designs that have pulled crazy numbers. It certainly helps having an artist/YouTuber though.
 
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