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Starting my Key West Cash Set, and wanted to see if anyone has a spare Key West custom cut they are willing to part ways with?
 
Did not realize there is a cut card for the set. Nice! I need to add another 50 to get to a total of 600.
 

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The green cut cards were a one-time order. Working on a new order of cut cards with one of two producers. They should be available later this year.

That’s awesome. I’ll be patiently waiting. :)

By the way, my set just arrived and I absolutely love them! I’m about to head out town for the weekend but I can’t wait to put them in play!

Thank you, Dennis!!
 

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That’s awesome. I’ll be patiently waiting. :)

By the way, my set just arrived and I absolutely love them! I’m about to head out town for the weekend but I can’t wait to put them in play!

Thank you, Dennis!!

Awsome set & perfect breakdown...have fun !
KW FTW
 
How do you like playing with those cards, and are they plastic?

I actually have not put them into play. I have been using my KEM plastic cards that I had from before.

This week I received a few decks that I’ll put into play next time I meet up with my buddies. I’ll let you know what material they are and how the play, but I’m pretty sure they are not plastic.
 
I actually have not put them into play. I have been using my KEM plastic cards that I had from before.

This week I received a few decks that I’ll put into play next time I meet up with my buddies. I’ll let you know what material they are and how the play, but I’m pretty sure they are not plastic.
Think Dennis gets casino linen card stock for the Key West cards. @dennis63 have you considered making plastic KWC cards?

FWIW they'd be a snap buy for me.
 
Think Dennis gets casino linen card stock for the Key West cards. @dennis63 have you considered making plastic KWC cards?

FWIW they'd be a snap buy for me.

When I replied to this initially, I thought we were talking about cut cards, as per the title of the thread. I'd love to find a producer who can do quality plastic cards without having to order tens of thousands of cards.

There are a number of issues with making playing cards -- and with making plastic playing cards.

The major issue is simple: You need to make lots and lots of cards to get "access" to the quality printing and materials that anyone here would find even minimally acceptable to use at their table at home.

Even then, most people are very particular about the cards they use, and would never switch to what you are making, no matter what. Ask around here, and you'll quickly learn that people love the cards they use. Getting them to even consider trying new playing cards would be a non-starter. Getting them to switch political parties or religions would be easier.

You could never sell the number of decks the big producers set as their Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ).

Right now, the MOQ for most producers is 5,000 decks -- per color. Two colors would be 10,000 decks. Two sizes -- poker and bridge -- in each of two colors? Maybe 20,000 decks -- all priced significantly higher than retail decks, so that you can't use the big card company's equipment to compete against them.

Want higher quality, like plastic? The MOQs leap upward significantly.

The home chip market is a niche market. Key West is a "niche within a niche." We sell about 150 decks of Key West playing cards per year.

Casinos need hundreds of decks of fresh new cards every week. If a casino has 30 blackjack tables using six-deck shoes and changing decks every 24 hours, they're using over 2,500 decks per week. If they're ordering 130,000 decks per year, they can basically get whatever they want, and their per-deck cost will be very, very low, and covered by their winnings at the tables.
 
When I replied to this initially, I thought we were talking about cut cards, as per the title of the thread. I'd love to find a producer who can do quality plastic cards without having to order tens of thousands of cards.

There are a number of issues with making playing cards -- and with making plastic playing cards.

The major issue is simple: You need to make lots and lots of cards to get "access" to the quality printing and materials that anyone here would find even minimally acceptable to use at their table at home.

Even then, most people are very particular about the cards they use, and would never switch to what you are making, no matter what. Ask around here, and you'll quickly learn that people love the cards they use. Getting them to even consider trying new playing cards would be a non-starter. Getting them to switch political parties or religions would be easier.

You could never sell the number of decks the big producers set as their Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ).

Right now, the MOQ for most producers is 5,000 decks -- per color. Two colors would be 10,000 decks. Two sizes -- poker and bridge -- in each of two colors? Maybe 20,000 decks -- all priced significantly higher than retail decks, so that you can't use the big card company's equipment to compete against them.

Want higher quality, like plastic? The MOQs leap upward significantly.

The home chip market is a niche market. Key West is a "niche within a niche." We sell about 150 decks of Key West playing cards per year.

Casinos need hundreds of decks of fresh new cards every week. If a casino has 30 blackjack tables using six-deck shoes and changing decks every 24 hours, they're using over 2,500 decks per week. If they're ordering 130,000 decks per year, they can basically get whatever they want, and their per-deck cost will be very, very low, and covered by their winnings at the tables.
Understood. For the quantity that you'd have to buy plastic decks unfortunately don't make sense for the size business that you have. It would be years before you even make a dent in your initial inventory even if you were to put an order in today and sales increase a little bit each year.

I'm flexible when it comes to the type of card used in my home game. We've been rotating KEM and Faded Spade cards in and out lately. Lots of people here don't like the Faded Spades; lots of complaints of the card stock being too stiff and thick. I feel the opposite. I feel that the higher quality stock allows for a more durable card that would take years of recreational home use to become warped. Paper Bicycle decks take just a few weeks to warp when my other friends that use Bicycle decks host. I'm also a below average shuffler that has a lifetime vendetta against automatic shufflers. The thicker stock makes it easier for me to shuffle, but I will say that the KEM's are my favorite to shuffle, they're just so buttery and smooth.

Anyway, I digress. I'll be ordering some of the presently available Key West decks and cut cards when they're available with my next order :)
 
Understood. For the quantity that you'd have to buy plastic decks unfortunately don't make sense for the size business that you have. It would be years before you even make a dent in your initial inventory even if you were to put an order in today and sales increase a little bit each year.

I'm flexible when it comes to the type of card used in my home game. We've been rotating KEM and Faded Spade cards in and out lately. Lots of people here don't like the Faded Spades; lots of complaints of the card stock being too stiff and thick. I feel the opposite. I feel that the higher quality stock allows for a more durable card that would take years of recreational home use to become warped. Paper Bicycle decks take just a few weeks to warp when my other friends that use Bicycle decks host. I'm also a below average shuffler that has a lifetime vendetta against automatic shufflers. The thicker stock makes it easier for me to shuffle, but I will say that the KEM's are my favorite to shuffle, they're just so buttery and smooth.

Anyway, I digress. I'll be ordering some of the presently available Key West decks and cut cards when they're available with my next order :)

I hope you like the Key West cards. The stock is a bit on the thicker, heavier side. I've been using the same working decks at our Tuesday blackjack events for about four months, and they hold up pretty well.

Shuffling and dealing is very subjective, and depends largely on the skill of the person handling the deck. I once sent a pair of Key West decks to two kids in Australia who do YouTube videos on cardistry. Their skill at handling the decks to do different shuffles and handling tricks was absolutely incredible. (The link to their video is at the bottom of this post.)

The card world is very different. Just like here, there are a couple of website that focus on the world of high-end playing cards and decks made for magicians. At least one is sponsored or run completely by U.S. Playing Card Co. To say there is a strong bias against anything that's not USPC would be an understatement. I offered cards made by Liberty and was promptly abused by everyone there. I further outraged them by not having a dragon or a naked woman in the back design. One critic on that site wrote of the Key West cards, "He has perfectly captured the look and essence of a classic Las Vegas casino deck, which is why I won't be buying any."

Here's the video from "Joker and the Thief" of Australia.

Joker & the Thief Key West Review
 
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