JOKER on the Flop in a Million Dollar gtd Tournament! (1 Viewer)

[ktran]

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/06/joker-card-pokernews-cup-41512.htm

Lmao how does this happen. Don't they throw away the jokers. The back designs should be limited to a specific casino. Dealer must have snuck it into the deck as it was the first hand. They fan the cards out at the beginning so everyone can see. Inside job or someone stole it somehow? Shouldn't they destroy the jokers? Master counterfeiter(s)? But even a counterfeiter can't put it in the deck if it's the first hand. Dealer must have been involved.

 

[Machine]

Odd, I think they mishandled the action!

The game isn't Joker's Wild, so the players weren't permitted to use the Joker card as a wild card. Right after the flop was dealt, the floor manager was called over to the table, and he ruled the hand dead. All action during the hand was null and void, and the chips in the pot were returned to players as if nothing happened, and then a new hand from a deck that didn't have a Joker card was dealt.

Shouldn't they have just treated the Joker as a blank scrap piece of paper?

 

[casinochipper22]

Holy shit. Haha. I've seen this before. It's more common to have a card stuck in the card box rather than have an extra stay in a played deck.

I'm pretty sure standard procedure is to return all bets. It's a fouled deck. You can't play a hand off it. And dealer is getting a write up. Lol

 

[ktran]

Odd, I think they mishandled the action!



Shouldn't they have just treated the Joker as a blank scrap piece of paper?

They do use new decks for tournaments, but I still don't get out it got in there as the whole table should have saw the whole deck at the beginning.

 

[casinochipper22]

My old boss, poker room manager, would keep us on our toes and take out a card or add a card on purpose every once in a while. And then hand out set ups before a tournament. If we didn't catch it, that's a write up. And pretty embarrassing.

 

[ktran]

My old boss, poker room manager, would keep us on our toes and take out a card or add a card on purpose every once in a while. And then hand out set ups before a tournament. If we didn't catch it, that's a write up. And pretty embarrassing.

Don't they throw away the jokers though? If so, wouldn't they destroy them?

 

[Geremie]

I knew I shouldn’t have folded my pocket jokers pre-flop…you always got to set mine with those!!!

 

[ktran]

I knew I shouldn’t have folded my pocket jokers pre-flop…you always got to set mine with those!!!

Lmao if no jokers were shown on the first hand, I wonder how they would deal with chip exchanges that happen before the joker showed up.

 

[AWenger]

Shouldn't they have just treated the Joker as a blank scrap piece of paper?

At that point, since the deck is fouled, no one knows for sure if all the other cards in the deck are correct, (are both jokers in there?; are all the other cards correct? Is there one or more other cards missing?), so they really can't continue playing with it.

I'm pretty sure standard procedure is to return all bets. It's a fouled deck. You can't play a hand off it. And dealer is getting a write up. Lol

^This. I think this is standard procedure in tournament rules I've seen before.

 

[casinochipper22]

Don't they throw away the jokers though? If so, wouldn't they destroy them?

Yeah. That is odd it found its way on the table. Our procedure was when a new shipment of cards came in, two supervisors and gaming dept have to open decks together, log them in, and replace them with the old decks. So it passes through 3 sets of eyes before even getting to a dealer at a table.

 

[ktran]

What's also odd is how the players at the table didn't spot it out at the beginning when the cards are fanned out.

 

[raynmanas]

lol at "the ruling is 'wow'"

 

[Machine]

At that point, since the deck is fouled, no one knows for sure if all the other cards in the deck are correct, (are both jokers in there?; are all the other cards correct? Is there one or more other cards missing?), so they really can't continue playing with it.

^This. I think this is standard procedure in tournament rules I've seen before.

I found this in RRoP

IRREGULARITIES​

8. A joker that appears in a game where it is not used is treated as a scrap of paper. Discovery of a joker does not cause a misdeal. If the joker is discovered before a player acts on his or her hand, it is replaced as in the previous rule. If the player does not call attention to the joker before acting, then the player has a dead hand.

I think ONLY after 3 'scraps' of paper would the deck be fouled.

 

[AWenger]

I found this is RRoP


I think ONLY after 3 'scraps' of paper would the deck be fouled.

Ha. Funny -- interesting that RRoP has separate rules for jokers that treat them as "scraps" I had no idea RRoP had rules for jokers. (I'm guessing when written, RRoP was meant for use also in poker games that had jokers wild type of games). I wonder if the TDA (Tournament Directors Association(?) rules have anything written about jokers in the deck, since I don't know of any tournament poker that uses jokers. I think I've read through TDA rules before and not RRoP.

 

[Terrys394]

What's also odd is how the players at the table didn't spot it out at the beginning when the cards are fanned out.

Exactly a missing card is one thing but a joker should stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[TheBigTater]

The new youtube video. "How to play JJoker"

 

[Colquhoun]

The other question is….was it pixelated?

 

[CAIQUE]