Jockey Mold fake casino hotstamp Fractionals - Group Design and Group Buy (2 Viewers)

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There was some discussion a few months back about the CPC Jockey mold and its similarities to the Paulson H&C.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...ions-on-chip-performance-thickness-etc.18400/
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...e-to-fall-in-love-with-the-jockey-mold.10700/

For some time now, the idea of getting a rack of actual casino dimes has been appealing... but at $275 a rack, that's pretty prohibitive.
HotstampFrac.jpg


So here's the idea:

As a group we can brainstorm some generic casino names and vote to determine a winner. Once the winner is picked (or top three), mockups similar to below can be created. The group of committed participants will vote on artwork. The preferred designs will move forward.

Per the CPC website, a solid Jockey mold chip is $1.05 ea. Hotstamping the chip is 14c. The total cost per chip, not including die cost is $119. A typical die is on the order of $75. The die cost will be divided between the number of chips procured using that die and added to the individual cost per chip. Example: if 550 25c chips are procured and the die is $75. Then the die cost per chip is 0.136c. If you ordered 120 of that chip, your cost per chip would be 1.05+.14+.136 = $1.33. Your total cost for the 120x chips is $159.60... not bad. The best part is you didn't have to order 300 chips. For comparison purposes, @chipjoker 's Music Shack hotstamp die cost $85. I envision the dies for this project to be similar.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/notes-from-the-music-shack.16231/


http://www.classicpokerchips.com/pokerchips/realclay/hotstamps.htm
http://www.classicpokerchips.com/pokerchips/realclay/pricelist.htm

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Regarding denominations, everything is on the table. If you want a rack of one penny chips, and no one else does... that die cost is only divided by your chips... effectively, you cover the entire cost of that die. That's okay. You can still get out the door with a semi custom rack of pennies for ~$200.

Regarding colors... as near as I can tell, the group will need to order at least 100 chips of a given color. They can be hotstamped differently however. If I want 150x chocolate dimes and you want 100 chocolate quarters, that works fine.

Moving Forward:
If you are interested in being part of this group design / group buy, provide the following information (copy/paste using format below). This is NOT a firm commitment. You are not obligated to anything at this point.

Casino Name Suggestion(s): xxxxxxxxx
Denomination / Quantity: xxx / yyyy
Denomination / Quantity: xxx / yyyy

Name Suggestions (Poll to be posted on 4/26... get those nominations in... and determine commitment):
 
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Name Suggestions:
Silver Nugget (deleted due to existing casino)
Rivers Edge Casino
Saddle Club (Las Vegas, NV or Louisville, KY)
Silver Shoe (Las Vegas, NV or Louisville, KY)
Crown Club (Las Vegas, NV or Louisville, KY)
Trifecta Club (Las Vegas, NV or Louisville, KY)
The Roadhouse
Shore Club, Lake Tahoe, NV
Minnow's, Gardnerville, NV
Moe's Tavern, Springfield
Tube Bar, Jersey City
Red's Tavern, Jersey City
Two-Bit Saloon
Pair-o-Dice Club - Est 1931
El Rancho - Est. 1941
Squeaky's Tip Top
Bison St Lounge
Mercury Inn & Casino
Kennedy's Seaside Club

Denomination Interest - (~QTY desired)
5c - 100 ( +100 if its Moe's Tavern)
10c - 220
25c - 220

+300 any denom if its Moe's Tavern
 
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Casino Name Suggestion(s): Silver Nugget, Las Vegas, NV.
Denomination / Quantity: 10cent / 110
Denomination / Quantity: 25cent / 110
 
I like this idea..I can get dimes and quarters for sets I use roulettes.

Casino Name Suggestion(s): Rivers Edge Casino
Denomination / Quantity: 10cent / 110
Denomination / Quantity: 25cent / 110
 
Casino Name Suggestions: (All Las Vegas, NV or Louisville, KY)
Saddle Club
Silver Shoe
Crown Club
Trifecta Club

Denomination / Quantity: 5c / 100 / Lavendar?

Definitely in for samples of anything made.
Not sure how committed to this I am. The need isn't strong, but need doesn't usually factor into decisions here so *shrug*
 
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How about a name that sounds cheap and seedy, since we're talking about nickels and dimes?
I'm not very creative. Something like The Roadhouse.
 
How about a name that sounds cheap and seedy, since we're talking about nickels and dimes?
I get where you're coming from and that's probably thematically appropriate, but I'm opposed to conveying that micro-stakes players are less desirable or seedier. I work hard to convey exactly the opposite to my micro-stakes players.
 
How about a name that sounds cheap and seedy, since we're talking about nickels and dimes?
I'm not very creative. Something like The Roadhouse.

I love cheap and seedy. Some of my favorite Vegas haunts are cheap and seedy. El Cortez, The Western, Gold Spike.
 
I love cheap and seedy. Some of my favorite Vegas haunts are cheap and seedy. El Cortez, The Western, Gold Spike.
El Cortez is still trying to stay cheap, but is actually trying to become brighter and more attractive and accessible to millennials, believe it or not.
 
Here are some more images for inspiration:
HotstampFrac2.jpg


and some more name suggestions... trying to go with the "dive" theme:

1. Shore Club, Lake Tahoe, NV
2. Minnow's, Gardnerville, NV (homage to Sharkey's)
3. Moe's Tavern, Springfield
4. Tube Bar, Jersey City (homage to Red the bartender prank calls... see link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_Bar_prank_calls#Bar_Location_and_Details)
5. Red's Tavern, Jersey City (see above)
 
Also... there's nothing saying that each denomination chip needs to be from the same place. This is a frac for a mixed set after all.
 
OP updated to state that the Name Poll will be posted on 4/26... get those nominations in... and determine commitment
 
What would be neat is a tribute to the first casino in Vegas or even the first casino on the strip in Vegas

First Casino = Pair-o-Dice Club - Est 1931
First Strip Casino = El Rancho Vegas - Est. 1941
 
Squeaky's Tip Top.

A bar I spent a lot of time in in Augusta Ga. It's got that sort of speak easy name with the "what the hell is a Tip Top?" thing going on. And it was seedy.
 
What would be neat is a tribute to the first casino in Vegas or even the first casino on the strip in Vegas

First Casino = Pair-o-Dice Club - Est 1931
First Strip Casino = El Rancho Vegas - Est. 1941

Based on the feedback I got in the Flamingo tribute thread, I'm not sure if El Rancho will fly. I can investigate.
 
Based on the feedback I got in the Flamingo tribute thread, I'm not sure if El Rancho will fly. I can investigate.
I agree because the Flamingo is still in operation. El Rancho closed in 1960 and there were others but none in operation. Sounds good. Curious to see where this goes.

Now, what to do with all of the racks of fracs I have now?!? Add more!
 
I agree because the Flamingo is still in operation. El Rancho closed in 1960 and there were others but none in operation.

I received feedback from @David Spragg in this regard. The statement was that if I omitted the location, or changed the location, it would be acceptable. So El Rancho, Est. 1941 would work. The problem is the Las Vegas or the Nevada using a real (even closed real) casino that was located in Nevada.
 
There seems to be enough interest for this to fly. Keep those names coming. Please note, any name that is a current (open) casino likely cannot be used... specifically a Nevada Casino.
 
The poll is going to go up at the end of the day today. Reply to this thread with additional names and interest in ordering. Pretty much anyone who has replied in this thread that has even a slight potential in ordering will be able to vote on the name.
 
.5c - Bison St Lounge
.10c - Mercury Inn & Casino
.50c - Kennedy's Seaside Club

At this time, I will just be posting a poll for the top preference on names. I wasn't planning on breaking it down by denomination. I figured after we had favorite names, we could decide which name we wanted with which denom. I am open to suggestions in this regard.

You are the first to mention a 50c chip... Should I update post 2 to include 100x of each, or were you just sharing some names with denominations attached?
 
Just sharing some possible names sorta tied to the denoms. Not a big fan of .50c chips myself, would really only be interested in quarters & nickles.
 
I really have a feeling this one is going to happen. It's got my vote for sure... likely a vote from @upNdown too.
Saying this before the vote starts so that you understand my commitment level, @Shaggy - Moe's Tavern is probably the one name I'm 100% out on. I love me some simpsons, but I have no desire to blend that show with another poker set/theme at all.

I also have no desire to influence the vote. Folks want Moe's? All good. I'm in for a sample! Just not a rack.
 
Additionally, you do not need to be a committed participant to suggest names.
I'm not going to be in on these, so , grain of salt, however, if these fractionals are designed to be added to existing people's sets ... Do you think something "geneneric" , such as "Club Casino, Casino Club , Poker" or similar might appeal to a broad range & be able to transfer to/from various cash sets easily?
 

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