James Bond Roulette Project Design Thread #1: Basic Colour Scheme

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Hello, everyone! This will be the first of a few design threads that I will sharing with and soliciting advice from the PCF membership who like to participate in this type of thing and are also fans of the James Bond movie franchise. There will not be polls because this will not be a design-by-committee nor have anything to do with a group buy, but I am interested in your opinions and particularly the reasons behind them.

The overall project will be to design two roulette sets (7 players each, 200+20 chips per player). This thread will focus on assigning the available colours to each group, and an actor to each colour, within the design limits. Future threads will concentrate on the sticker art itself, and the custom roulette felt which will ultimately be made. The really hard part is already done: all the chips to be used have been gathered in sufficient quantity, milled, cleaned, and oiled to prepare. So here we go!

The 1st set will represent the 6 James Bond actors
Sean Connery
George Lazenby
Roger Moore
Timothy Dalton
Pierce Brosnan
Daniel Craig

The 2nd set will represent the primary Bond Girl associated with each James Bond actor's first portrayal in their movie franchise
Ursula Andress
Diana Rigg
Jane Seymour
Maryam d'Abo
Izabella Scorupco
Eva Green

"But, Berny," some of you are already wondering, "If each set has 7 colours, why do you only have 6 actors for each set?" This is for future-proofing. No Time To Die (Bond 25) will be Daniel Craig's last film of the franchise, so there will be a search for another actor to carry on some time in the future, so one place has been left for whoever that will be, as well as the appropriate actor to pair off with them. The choice of female actors in the 2nd set is NOT up for debate. There will be plenty of opportunity to honour other actors throughout the 58 years that the movie franchise has been alive (so far) when it comes to designing the felt.

Here are the colours we will be working with:

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Set 1 (left to right): Red, Fuchsia, Royal Blue, Black, Gold, Arc Yellow, Indian Blue
Set 2 (left to right): Apricot, Purple, Hot Pink, Orange, White, Chocolate, Forest Green

These are all Paulson THC solids, the majority of which are in Excellent condition, with many also being Near Mint, and also some on the high end of Very Good. The chips in the pics above are actually the worst condition barrels of the lot, and will be my "extras", and shows them after milling but before oiling, so the colours as they are right now are a little more consistent. Are these set in stone? Not necessarily, but I did divide the colours into the two sets to try to allow for a variety of brighter and darker colours, as well as playability reasons (so no two hues are too close together, that might cause a dealer to make an error when paying out). I will listen to arguments about colour switching between sets.

THE GREAT QUESTION: WHICH COLOUR SHOULD BE ASSIGNED TO WHICH ACTOR?

This is, to me, the most important part of the design process, and which needs to combine practical aspects of playability with esthetic aspects like which colour represents which actor best, taking into account the positive qualities of the actor and/or their character as they were portrayed. Here are some of my initial thoughts to get started, so you know what I mean.

Set 1:

Gold: I am 98% reserving this for Sean Connery. Why? Because, as the first (and according to majority of polls, the best) Bond actor, he is the gold standard (rightly or wrongly) to which all other actors past and present and future will be compared to. Of course, he was also involved in the Goldfinger mission to prevent the destruction/radioactive contamination of the US gold reserve in Fort Knox.

Royal Blue: suitable for the character as James Bond is an officer in the Royal Navy. Even though most actors have had their share of aquatic adventures, the Royal Navy connection has really only been stressed in the portrayals by Connery, Moore, and Brosnan, with only a passing mention of Craig in his character's obituary in Skyfall. And if Connery is locked in as Gold, then this colour could be assigned to Moore or Brosnan

Indian Blue: most people will categorize this colour as a green, which, let's face it, it is. It could be assigned to Moore, as the bulk of the Octopussy mission was set in India. Or, with a different angle, this could be applied to Craig, as his character in Casino Royale was considered just newly qualified for "00" status, so hence his "green" status in that designation.

Arc Yellow: this is the brightest colour in the Set 1 line-up. Maybe a good placeholder for Moore, arguably the "brightest" intellectually, as over his 7 missions his character has shown most breadth in general knowledge in a variety of theoretical, applied, and social sciences, all the way from toxins derived from animal and plant sources to fine art history and appraisal.

Black: leaning toward Craig here, only because the overall physicality of Craig's Bond makes him seem the most dangerous in a straight-on dust-up. He also seems to be the most morally ambivalent, and thus suited for more of the "black ops" assassination missions.

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Set 2:

White: many possible assignments here. This could easily be given this to Andress, because of her iconic character introduction, walking out of the Bahamian waters in her white bikini. Rigg would be a strong contender, as her character Tracy married Bond, and killed on their wedding day while she was still wearing her white wedding dress. As an absolute innocent, d'Abo could also claim the white colour, as her musician character had really no connection to the world of espionage (except that her paramour, a Russian general, was using her as a pawn to set up a fake defection to the West).

Forest Green: I want to give this one to Eva Green, 1) because of her name, and 2) the dark colour alludes to her eventual betrayal, as she was extorted into being a double-agent by a false honey trap in the Quantum/Spectre organization. Could be switched for the Indian Blue in Set 1.

Chocolate: not a particularly strong connection, but could be given to Rigg as she and Lazenby's Bond end up playing out their movie in Switzerland, and the Swiss are fairly famous for their chocolate. This one might also be a good match for d'Abo, as the the wood colour can represent her character's cello.

Purple: another possible match for Rigg. Purple is the colour of nobility, and she could claim a title by her first marriage to an Italian count.

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Lots of work and decisions left to do. Would love to hear some thoughts on connecting these colours to certain actors.
 
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Cool idea, following. I’m betting a lot of people will be available to help on the label design, but this aspect seems pretty locked down. I *might* be able to argue for one color change in the second set, but you’re reasoning seems pretty reasonable and spot on.
 

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It is insane the amount of work and thought you have put into this! You have put forth some very compelling reasons that has left me speechless. Can’t wait to see the designs you come up with!
 

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Only a couple of the colours have been "assigned", and even everything's not 100% right now. Open to any and all suggestions, but am especially interesting in the reasoning behind them. This is not a rush project, literally have months and months to get through the design process. I predict there will be at least 3, maybe 4 consecutive design threads open for input from everybody before this can even be thought of as complete.

Oh, just in case some of the newer people may be wondering "why this theme" and "why this thought process"... I run a twice-yearly charitable fundraising event from home, always a big party, and always with a James Bond theme. I have been hosting JB theme parties since around late 2006, and have eventually switched them over to a fundraising theme since about late 2013. I used to do only blackjack, but have had the opportunity over the past couple years to expand to roulette, and I want a dedicated custom set for this purpose as I will eventually get my own roulette table made.

So, feel free to let those ideas flow!
 
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This is one of the best ideas I have heard of, concept wise. I was born in the late 80’s, and I unfortunately didn’t watch any Bond film until the Pierce Brosnan run. While it sounds like your a massive fan, this franchise has so many natural components to make for just a flawless overall chip design.
Whether you go Bond Actor/Bond Babe OR Bond Actor/Villain any/all combinations will be tremendous! I can’t give too much helpful information with detailed information specific to the films, but I like to think I have a somewhat decent eye for cleanliness and what I like to call “synergy” from my brief MTG run. Sorry this wasn’t too helpful, but all this to say your idea is great and I can’t wait to give my two cents in the next stages!
 

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I could also use the Black for Connery. Reminds me of a tuxedo, and he was first introduced to us wearing one while playing Chemin de Fer Baccarat at Le Cercle.
 

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How did i miss this thread!?? Love the concept, love James Bond.

Some of my thoughts:

I get the Gold choice for Connery b/c of Goldfinger, but my first thought for that color was Moore. The color reminds me of pretty much every suit that Moore wore in the 70's. You could use the yellow for Connery and it could still fit in with the Goldfinger theme. If not I agree with Indian Blue for Moore.

Red - Dalton. Dalton's bond was by far the most violent, the most bloody.

Royal Blue - Brosnan. There's the Navy connection, plus all of his movies have a lot of water/ice in the plots.

Black - Craig. Just feels right

Fuchsia - Lazenby. Reminds me of the hypnotic cure on the girls and it reminds me of the flowers on Bonds windshield at the end of the film. If you are open to changing the colors I would say that White makes the most sense for Lazenby. Piz Gloria, the wedding, ski chase scene...



I love this concept, good luck with it!
 

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Red - Dalton. Dalton's bond was by far the most violent, the most bloody.

Fuchsia - Lazenby. Reminds me of the hypnotic cure on the girls and it reminds me of the flowers on Bonds windshield at the end of the film. If you are open to changing the colors I would say that White makes the most sense for Lazenby. Piz Gloria, the wedding, ski chase scene...

Thank you! I was actually leaning toward Red for Dalton. Many of the Bold films were very leery about showing blood from the results of combat wounds (whether ballistic or hand-to-hand), and Dalton's films actually started showing this. Plus, Dalton's Bond really gets beat up a lot. And I was also thinking of the Red angle to represent (personal) revenge, which reminds me of the Licence to Kill plot where he is avenging the death of Felix's wife (killed on her wedding day, in a parallel to OHMSS) and Felix's maiming by the drug lord Sanchez.

I don't remember the colours of the flowers in the windshield, thank you for this! I will definitely keep this in mind.

If I move White to Set #1, then I will need to move Black to Set #2. I don't want both White and Black in the same subset.

No love for David Niven? He was the 7th Bond in the original Casino Royale :D

Of course we all love Sir David Niven, but I must stick to the films that make up the official Bond canon, which excludes both the earlier Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again.

Keep those thoughts coming!
 

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So far the front-runners seem to be:

Set #1
Sean Connery - Gold
George Lazenby - Fuchsia
Roger Moore - Indian Blue
Timothy Dalton - Red
Pierce Brosnan - Royal Blue
Daniel Craig - Black
Future Bond #7 - Arc Yellow

Set #2
Ursula Andress - White
Diana Rigg - Purple
Jane Seymour - unassigned; maybe Hot Pink? (she's a close favourite for most striking Bond girl)
Maryam d'Abo - Chocolate
Izabella Scorupco - unassigned; Apricot vs. Orange?
Eva Green - Forest Green
Future Bond Girl #7 - whatever's left over
 

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Another thought I just had.

I could move Orange to Set #1 in exchange for Arc Yellow to Set #2

Ursula Andress' connection to Arc Yellow would be in her introduction, because after she emerges from the ocean, she sings a song "Underneath The Mango Tree" and the Arc Yellow would be a good allusion to the flesh of the mango fruit.

That would also free up White to give to Diana Rigg (still can't get the white wedding dress out of my mind).

And that would leave Purple vs. Apricot for Izabella Scorupco.
 

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I wish I knew more about the Bond franchise. I only started watching them from the Pierce Brosnan era and onward.
 

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Roger Moore would be a kind of muddy orange, to match his hair and lack of athleticism :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Roger Moore would be a kind of muddy orange, to match his hair and lack of athleticism :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Hahaha, just had a flash of Roger Moore running up the steps in For Your Eyes Only :LOL: :laugh:

For the Bond Girls my opinions are:

Ursula Andress - white
Eva Green - Green
Diana Rigg - Hot Pink
Maryam d'Abo - Apricot
Isabella Scorupco - Orange
Jane Seymour - Purple
 

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Hahaha, just had a flash of Roger Moore running up the steps in For Your Eyes Only :LOL: :laugh:

For the Bond Girls my opinions are:

Ursula Andress - white
Eva Green - Green
Diana Rigg - Hot Pink
Maryam d'Abo - Apricot
Isabella Scorupco - Orange
Jane Seymour - Purple

Any particular reasoning behind those last three?
 

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Roger Moore would be a kind of muddy orange, to match his hair and lack of athleticism :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

All joking aside, I want this set to represent the positive of the characters. If we want to be (negatively) critical about the Bonds and the movies and the history, even as a fan I could go on for hours. So none of this "I want to assign (colour I don't like) to this actor (who I don't like)." Every person and every portrayal has flaws.
 

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seymour is tough because I also associate her character with white (dress, virginity being important, ect)

I suppose red is the colour we see her in first but I was trying to think if the movie applied to any of the available colours overall
 

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As of now, I'm going with:

Set #1
Sean Connery - Gold
George Lazenby - Fuchsia
Roger Moore - Indian Blue
Timothy Dalton - Red
Pierce Brosnan - Royal Blue
Daniel Craig - Black
Future Bond #7 - Arc Yellow

Set #2
Ursula Andress - White
Diana Rigg - Purple
Jane Seymour - Hot Pink
Maryam d'Abo - Chocolate
Izabella Scorupco - Orange
Eva Green - Forest Green
Future Bond Girl #7 - Apricot

Still open to opinions, if you have any, so post away; this is not necessarily locked down.

Please also feel free to move to the next thread where we start getting into the chip graphics.
 
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