Jacks Cinci vs other Horseshoe RHC chips (1 Viewer)

[EpicAS]

Hi All,
Wondering if those who own Jack Cincinnati Paulson chips (like the ones from Jim’s sales) and also other Horseshoe (or RHC) chips can shed some light on this….

I own some Jack cinci 25 & 500’s and also some HSI $5’s and Horseshoe Cincinnati $100’s. I’ve noticed that the Jack Cincinnati chips feel very different from the others. Noticeable differences:
- The Jacks chips are lighter and have a textured feel on the edges.
- The horseshoe chips are smooth and feel harder.
- The “labels” on the Horseshoe chips feel smoother and harder than the Jacks (which look and feel like stickers).
- The horseshoe chips have sharper edges (I thought this was just due to heavy use, but as I understand that the Horseshoe Cincinnati chips are older than Jack Cincinnati).

Are the Jack Cincis different material? Or maybe cheaper quality?

 

[BearMetal]

I do have many different RHCs and I can tell you that vintage and color can definitely make them feel different.

But I don't know the "ins" of Paulson manufacturing. Perhaps beyond the year that they were ordered and their color, casinos can alter parameters which change the final product.

What I can tell you is that when ripping off the inlays, the difference in difficulty between two RHCs that look almost identical to each other is uncanny. A JACK chip from Detroit could take a minute while one from Cincinnati could take 5 minutes and leave you cursing and bleeding.

So there's definitely a difference in their manufacturing...

TL;DR: RHC != RHC

 

[Nanook]

Hi All,
Wondering if those who own Jack Cincinnati Paulson chips (like the ones from Jim’s sales) and also other Horseshoe (or RHC) chips can shed some light on this….

Are the Jack Cincis different material? Or maybe cheaper quality?

98% of the difference is just that some were in use/play extensively and others have never seen table play at all.

The other 2% could be that they were manufactured at different times with a slightly different process.

 

[EpicAS]

98% of the difference is just that some were in use/play extensively and others have never seen table play at all.

The other 2% could be that they were manufactured at different times with a slightly different process.

I was thinking it was the extensive use, but the HSI $5’s also have some flea bites and small nicks, but they feel harder and smoother.

Also, I forgot to mention that the horseshoe chips also have a much stronger smell of smoke than the jacks.

 

[LinkyBabe]

Pics might help.

 

[Nanook]

Hi All,
Wondering if .......Are the Jack Cincis different material? Or maybe cheaper quality?

You should post a pic because there are different (primary and secondary) versions of each chip + some have heavy use and others have no use at all.

Short answer to your question is: No, they are the same. Different colors are slightly different weight due to what they put in them to get the color. Other than that thay are the same manufacturer, same process to make them etc.

 

[EpicAS]

I don’t know if these photos are clear enough or high quality enough to see what I mean:

 

[Thomacetti]

Based on my personal experience, there are 3 (or 6) kinds of RHC

- Textured & leaded (with & without metal/mineral flakes) examples-> PCA $1, Sheraton (Tunica) roulettes, ...
- smooth & leaded (with & without metal/mineral flakes) examples -> Grand Vic's, Majestic Star, Ginsberg chips, ...
- smooth & non-leaded (with & without metal/mineral flakes) -> all current RHC chips (made since 1998)

Weight for leaded chips is usually+10g, non leaded start at 8g per chips.
Besides that, condition can also alter the feeling but leaded chips feel and wear different than non-leaded chips.

 

[Nanook]

While everything @Thomacetti said above is true, none of that has anything to do with differences between the specific chips that the op pictured. All of these chips fall into the same category (post 1998 non leaded)

The only difference is the amount of use

 

[EpicAS]

Based on my personal experience, there are 3 (or 6) kinds of RHC

- Textured & leaded (with & without metal/mineral flakes) examples-> PCA $1, Sheraton (Tunica) roulettes, ...
- smooth & leaded (with & without metal/mineral flakes) examples -> Grand Vic's, Majestic Star, Ginsberg chips, ...
- smooth & non-leaded (with & without metal/mineral flakes) -> all current RHC chips (made since 1998)

Weight for leaded chips is usually+10g, non leaded start at 8g per chips.
Besides that, condition can also alter the feeling but leaded chips feel and wear different than non-leaded chips.

Thanks for the info Thomas! Sounds like I need to get some majestic stars to try out haha

While everything @Thomacetti said above is true, none of that has anything to do with differences between the specific chips that the op pictured. All of these chips fall into the same category (post 1998 non leaded)

The only difference is the amount of use

Dang.. I guess you are right. Shocking that the HS Cincinnati chips have less use/wear than the Jack Cincinnati chips even though the casino rebranded later.

 

[EpicAS]

Could someone who owns some Horseshoe Cincinnati $25’s please weigh 10 chips (or a barrel if that’s easier)?

 

[TigerKing]

Hi, my first post. Which is better, Horseshoe or Jack? Thanks!

 

[Rhodeman77]

I was thinking it was the extensive use, but the HSI $5’s also have some flea bites and small nicks, but they feel harder and smoother.

Also, I forgot to mention that the horseshoe chips also have a much stronger smell of smoke than the jacks.

The smoke smell is easy to explain, smoking indoors is illegal in Ohio, even in casinos so the chips were not exposed to cigarette smoke. I am guessing that is not the case in Indiana though if you can smell cigarette smoke on them.