Mr Monopoly
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Desjgn not Desijn
J Design cards aren’t what I expected (1 Viewer)
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I have the red/blue setup of the older Desjgns and definitely been a go-to for my home game and other card games. Can someone provide the cliff notes version of the switch from Modiano to the current Del Negro? If you have both old and new which do you prefer?
EpicAS
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I've had my Desjgn cards for about a year now, so not sure what stock they are - but just placed an order for 3 more setups, so maybe soon I can compare! @davislane and @xdan are very knowledgeable on cards... maybe they can help answer that one?
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want some more? i have a 4 colour bridge double set up im looking to move. Brand new never played.
as far a knowledge goes @xdan is the expert. i just know what hes told me and what ive read.
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Haha... you know since I brought out those Dal Negro's I bought off you, my friends all prefer them to the KEM and Copag cards....!want some more? i have a 4 colour bridge double set up im looking to move. Brand new never played.
as far a knowledge goes @xdan is the expert. i just know what hes told me and what ive read.
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dont say it too loudly but kem and copag can FRO!
Dal negro are my fav. By far.
I think I have enough at the moment!want some more? i have a 4 colour bridge double set up im looking to move. Brand new never played.
as far a knowledge goes @xdan is the expert. i just know what hes told me and what ive read.
ekricket
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Do the trouble cards exhibit the same behavior if dealt face up? Like desk several rounds face up and see if it helps or is the same.
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Freeroll
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No, the cards slide much better, when flipped over and pitched face up.
ekricket
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It’s probably the cut then. They are probably cut face down so the cutting pressure is pushing down at the corners, bending them slightly.
Read about mandolin back cards.
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Freeroll
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Ok, thanks! I’ll check it out.
ekricket
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Richard Turner is who you want to read about.
“Richard followed the casino dictate by ensuring that his Bee Cards were manufactured using a traditional cut. Unlike most cards, the cutting punch used in "traditional cut" cards starts at the card face and punches through to the back. As a result, a sharp edge is created on the backside of each card and a rounded edge, which facilitates easier card shuffling, is formed on the card's face.
Traditionally cut cards ensure that card men and magicians can easily interlace the cards to produce crisp, clean shuffles, especially with some of the more intricate shuffling techniques like the one-hand shuffle and the faro shuffles.
Traditionally cut cards were the norm until about 15 years ago when they flipped the card sheets causing the blade to start the cut through the back, which makes for a non user friendly deck where they bind or jam when trying to faro or do a one-hand shuffle.
If you want cards that faro like butter a traditional cut deck is what you need.”
ktran
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Does the ink fade relatively fast on Desjgn?
Mr Monopoly
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Though I use my Desjgn decks in a rotation with KEMs, Bullets or Faded Spades I haven’t seen any fading. Over 13 home games 8-14 players.
Does the yellow background not annoy the shit out of you?!? We tried these cards and about half the table couldn’t play bc of the faded yellow in the center of the cards. I’m perplexed people prefer this
ktran
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Are you using Modiano stock Design?
Andrew Marks
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Card slide in self-dealt games, especially from the ends of a 96" table has always been an issue for me. In my experience, card slide deteriorates after the table (or after a re-felt) has been used for some period of time and the surface of the table loses some of its slickness. I found this to be true whether using suited speed cloth or the softer gaming suede, but the card slide on newly installed gaming suede seems to deteriorate more quickly than speed cloth. Once the table surface has been used for some amount of time, then the nature of the cards becomes the bigger variable. I have found that: 1) certain cards have a more textured surface on the face side (but not on the back side) which inhibit the card slide especially if the dealer does not get sufficient air under the dealt card. Modiano PAs have this property, while Copags not as much. This is why the OP found the card slide to be better when cards were pitched face up; and 2) A brand new deck of cards (especially Copags) slide better than a deck of the same cards that has been used for two or three games.
I have searched high and low for anything that might improve card slide once it deteriorates, but the only answers are re-felting the table or using new decks more often. Hope this helps.
I have searched high and low for anything that might improve card slide once it deteriorates, but the only answers are re-felting the table or using new decks more often. Hope this helps.
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