"Inlay Replacement"

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Y'all can do whatever you want to your chips, but we can get an agreement that removing an inlay and replacing it with a sticker (don't give me any of that "label" BS - it's a f'ing sticker) does not qualify as "inlay replacement"?

When speaking of poker chips, isn't the nature of an inlay that it is "inlaid" in the chip before pressing?

I get that there are some great sets that are made playable by the addition of sticker chips, but they really are the equivalent of a kit car.

And you sick f'ers that are destroying collectible chips are the equivalent of people who plasti dip high end cars.

End rant.

P.S. I am sitting on my front porch and also just yelled at someone to get off my yard.

Happy Father's Day, good night.
 

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I would say the real inlays are stickers as well under a layer of plastic. Not unlike laminated labels.
 

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I would say the real inlays are stickers as well under a layer of plastic. Not unlike laminated labels.
Or maybe I should say not completely unlike laminated labels
 

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I’ve only “replaced inlays“ on boat chips, random hotstamps and soon will on fantasy ASMs.

The rest of you serial murderers disgust me. :rolleyes:

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removing an inlay and replacing it with a sticker .....does not qualify as "inlay replacement"
Technically, it is "inlay removal with adhesive-backed laminated vinyl label replacement", or in the case of hot-stamped or blank chips, "center-milled to a specific shape and adhesive-backed laminated vinyl label added". Both of which are a far cry from just adding a label to a chip, imo.

Replace the adhesive-backed laminated vinyl label references above with 'sticker' if you prefer, but you'll just sound ignorant. Most stickers aren't laminated, and many are just paper (not vinyl).
 

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I would say the real inlays are stickers as well under a layer of plastic. Not unlike laminated labels.

Not really. An inlay isn't anything like a sticker. It's pressed into the chip when the chip is pressed in the mold. It's part of the chip.
 

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An inlay isn't anything like a sticker.
Not after it's been pressed. But original laminated inlays after having been printed and before pressed are very much just like laminated labels, usually minus the adhesive.
 

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I’ve only “replaced inlays“ on boat chips, random hotstamps and soon will on fantasy ASMs.

The rest of you serial murderers disgust me. :rolleyes:

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Not really. An inlay isn't anything like a sticker. It's pressed into the chip when the chip is pressed in the mold. It's part of the chip.

Granted I’m not a very experienced murderer. Have done SBs and empress joliets. But after I have made the incision into the victim and plyed off the plastic it’s really nothing but a sticker underneath. Vinyl on sb and paper on empress
 

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This sounds like day drinking whiskey talk to me. Possibly from personal experience. Enjoy sir. You deserve it. Happy Father’s Day!
If you refer to me, I 've gone to great lengths at relinquishing the idea of becoming a father. :(

I have always laughed at congratulations given to couples for a pregnancy, when the true struggle is just about the contrary:LOL: :laugh:
 

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Granted I’m not a very experienced murderer. Have done SBs and empress joliets. But after I have made the incision into the victim and plyed off the plastic it’s really nothing but a sticker underneath. Vinyl on sb and paper on empress

I think the OPs point is that, no matter how well done, no inlay replacement can ever join to the clay like the original:

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Of course it's inlay replacement. We're literally replacing the inlay with something.

Of course it's not another inlay. That's why we don't call it "inlay exchange" or "inlay transplantation".
...... I've always called it Inlay Transplantation....
 

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I don’t disagree with @monkeydog, although I am technically a hypocrite, in that I inlay replaced some PdC chips to make a playable set. I believe that inlay replacement has a place, but it is a slippery slope and I cringe when I see vintage chips—perhaps irreplaceable—being modified in this way, just because someone wants to make a new set or doesn’t value the chip as-is. And I somewhat agree with Monkeydog that an inlay replaced chip is simply a simulacrum of the real thing. But it does serve a purpose and is a tool, carefully and thoughtfully employed, to make the hobby better.

Now, for current issue chips or fantasy chips (such as the boat chips), bring it on. If someone wants to make a custom inlay replaced set using Paris, Jack, Caesars, HS Cleve/Cindy or whatever, I say knock yourself out. And in certain other limited cases. This was the rationalization I took to justify inlay replacing the PdC’s, in that there are plenty of them out there, and they aren’t from an actual casino.

But, I am troubled by the desire of some to take such steps with truly vintage chips of finite number. It is a slippery slope and where does it end? Random Paulson hotstamps that someone decides would make a good addition to their set? Money Trees, just because someone hates the real (historically important) inlay? What about Nevada Clubs? Mapes?

There are SO many current or recent circulation options for inlay replacement. The options with those are almost limitless. One could make the set of one’s dreams with so many different and current options. Even better, some of the more recent chips are perfect for labeling-over (newer Paulsons for example), which allows one to reverse the change in the future. I think we, as a hobby, have to be careful with inlay replacement, because drawn out to its natural conclusion, rare or collectible chips are going to be forever altered.

But the genie is already out of the bottle. I just hope we use it responsibly.
 

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Y'all can do whatever you want to your chips, but we can get an agreement that removing an inlay and replacing it with a sticker (don't give me any of that "label" BS - it's a f'ing sticker) does not qualify as "inlay replacement"?

When speaking of poker chips, isn't the nature of an inlay that it is "inlaid" in the chip before pressing?

I get that there are some great sets that are made playable by the addition of sticker chips, but they really are the equivalent of a kit car.

And you sick f'ers that are destroying collectible chips are the equivalent of people who plasti dip high end cars.

End rant.

P.S. I am sitting on my front porch and also just yelled at someone to get off my yard.

Happy Father's Day, good night.
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I don’t disagree with @monkeydog, although I am technically a hypocrite, in that I inlay replaced some PdC chips to make a playable set. I believe that inlay replacement has a place, but it is a slippery slope and I cringe when I see vintage chips—perhaps irreplaceable—being modified in this way, just because someone wants to make a new set or doesn’t value the chip as-is. And I somewhat agree with Monkeydog that an inlay replaced chip is simply a simulacrum of the real thing. But it does serve a purpose and is a tool, carefully and thoughtfully employed, to make the hobby better.

Now, for current issue chips or fantasy chips (such as the boat chips), bring it on. If someone wants to make a custom inlay replaced set using Paris, Jack, Caesars, HS Cleve/Cindy or whatever, I say knock yourself out. And in certain other limited cases. This was the rationalization I took to justify inlay replacing the PdC’s, in that there are plenty of them out there, and they aren’t from an actual casino.

But, I am troubled by the desire of some to take such steps with truly vintage chips of finite number. It is a slippery slope and where does it end? Random Paulson hotstamps that someone decides would make a good addition to their set? Money Trees, just because someone hates the real (historically important) inlay? What about Nevada Clubs? Mapes?

There are SO many current or recent circulation options for inlay replacement. The options with those are almost limitless. One could make the set of one’s dreams with so many different and current options. Even better, some of the more recent chips are perfect for labeling-over (newer Paulsons for example), which allows one to reverse the change in the future. I think we, as a hobby, have to be careful with inlay replacement, because drawn out to its natural conclusion, rare or collectible chips are going to be forever altered.

But the genie is already out of the bottle. I just hope we use it responsibly.
For my response to you, see my previous post
 

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When speaking of poker chips, isn't the nature of an inlay that it is "inlaid" in the chip before pressing?
^ Missed this in the first take.

Nope, the printed artwork just sits on top of the chip (CPC uses a dab of glue) prior to pressing. It is the pressing operation that actually creates the inlay.
 

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If you refer to me, I 've gone to great lengths at relinquishing the idea of becoming a father. :(

I have always laughed at congratulations given to couples for a pregnancy, when the true struggle is just about the contrary:LOL: :laugh:

Oh no, I was talking about OP. But hope you are enjoying a drink today as well regardless!
 
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