How Do You Handle The Lets Check It Down Guy In Your Home Game? (1 Viewer)

ssanel54 said:
If the situation comes up where you are both at the final table, and one of the short stacks is all in. Do subtly try to get him to check it down?
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I only host one table, so I'm always at the final table. But I don't subtly try to get anyone to do anything. I'm not in the check-it-down camp. If I have a hand I may try to isolate, or if I go to the flop with additional betting possible and there's an opportunity for me to win more money from the guy who still has chips to bet I will bet and try to get as many chips as I can.

What do you do in a clear check down situation, when he keeps betting into you causing you to fold your winner and allowing the short stack to triple up? Do you say something to him?
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Nope, unless it was his buddy and it seems like he was doing it to protect his buddy from being busted. That could be an issue of collusion. I might shake my head if he did something stupid, but generally I'm not one to coach others on how to play during the game
 
Epic thread over what I think is a relatively simple issue. In my opinion,

1. Checking it down when one player is all in is not cheating. It's smart tournament strategy.

2. Discussing a check-down during a hand is a clear violation of OPTAH (one player to a hand). I wouldn't consider it to be cheating per se, but it's definitely against the rules and should be dealt with appropriately and consistently, according to the established house rules.

3. I would never kill a hand for violating OPTAH. However, if a player were so obnoxious as to do this repeatedly, I would consider dropping him from my invitation list.

4. Getting into an argument over semantics with a lawyer is an exercise in futility, although there are some who might do it for sport.

I agree with those who have suggested a warning for the first offense and a penalty (e.g., sitting out for one orbit) for subsequent offenses.

Carry on . . .
 
Totally agree with abby99's post above.
I can't believe this thread has gone on so long, lol.
But it was interesting to see all the different opinions. What it comes down to I guess is whether your group wants to allow it or not.
As I stated earlier, having the rule at my game is merely a deterrent.
I've never expected having to use it to penalise someone, and never have had to.

I don't think I've read, or had to look at our 10 or so rules in years.
The only thing we have to look at once a season is how to handle odd dealing situations.
So having the rules does not change the relaxed feel of our friendly game whatsoever.

I dont even go over them at the beginning of a game or the season unless we have a new player.
 
“Do you want to check it down?”

I don’t think I would ever say those words... I don’t even pay much attention when people say them to me in a cardroom... or a home game, I just kinda shrug my shoulders and motion to the dealer to continue normally. but there are definitely times in poker where it’s just obvious that there’s no gas in the hand and no-one has the stamina... I’ll usually bet into this... haha, like seriously... you just asked me to check it down... I’m taking these chips.

same thing goes for

“do you want to run it twice?” Sometimes I’m kinda tempted when I might be behind, but jeez, for the love of god,

NO... I don’t want to do any of these things... I want to play poker... the sacred card Gods frown on this behavior :)

in a drunken house game filled with close friends people are going to do all types of crazy shit... Some people like that. I don’t like to play in those games.

Any tournament though... no place for this “check it down” thing... it’s unfair to everyone else in the tourney.
 
Johnblue said:
“Do you want to check it down?”

I don’t think I would ever say those words... I don’t even pay much attention when people say them to me in a cardroom... or a home game, I just kinda shrug my shoulders and motion to the dealer to continue normally. but there are definitely times in poker where it’s just obvious that there’s no gas in the hand and no-one has the stamina... I’ll usually bet into this... haha, like seriously... you just asked me to check it down... I’m taking these chips.

same thing goes for

“do you want to run it twice?” Sometimes I’m kinda tempted when I might be behind, but jeez, for the love of god,

NO... I don’t want to do any of these things... I want to play poker... the sacred card Gods frown on this behavior :)

in a drunken house game filled with close friends people are going to do all types of crazy shit... Some people like that. I don’t like to play in those games.

Any tournament though... no place for this “check it down” thing... it’s unfair to everyone else in the tourney.
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Cool zombie...as a human, we all love our .2 cents! So here's mine: maybe this shouldn't really be not allowed, at least in a home game? I feel like often times that's the smart play anyways and often what happens. I guess maybe the really bad part would be to do it out-of-turn. Can't you ask players following you to "please check"? Do they have to listen? No. In fact, maybe it's conveying weakness and the other dude could take you off your hand.

Just thoughts...spitballin'!
 
BGinGA said:
In related news, I plan to drop a semantics bomb on @Poker Zombie at his upcoming November tourney, and dare him to call me a cheater:

Zombie: I bet 100.
BG: Raise. I see your 100 and raise you 300 more.
Zombie: You can't do that, it's against the rules. Oh, wait....
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We have a solution for that...
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i enjoyed this thread, as old as it is. Best part were the comments about whether or not we should make our home games so strict that the fun is sucked out. Because let's face it, the fun is hopefully why some of you have your home games.

That said, my end goal is that anyone playing in my home game should be comfortable walking into the poker room at the Bellagio based on what they've learned. Do we strictly enforce table banter? Like talking about what's on the board? No. Does it annoy me? Sometimes. However, my new tactic is not so much to enforce the rule, but rather explain that at a casino or poker room, or even some home games, this is why you do or don't do X.
 
grandgnu said:
EDIT: THIS IS FOR A HOME GAME TOURNEY

Got a newer player in my home game. In our previous event there was a player all-in and he and another player had called. The new guy says "I'll check it down if you will" and I was like "wooooahh, no no no, you can't say that"

I've been fortunate in not having had to deal with a player like this before in my home game (I know, the odds are astronomical!) but I explained he can't do that and didn't issue any sort of penalty.

I've got another game tonight and he's attending. IF it happens again, how would you guys handle it? I'm thinking my best options are:

1. his hand is immediately declared dead and any chips he's committed to the pot are forfeit
2. Same as #1 but also a one-round penalty where he has to fold all his hands for one rotation at the table
3. Just the one-round penalty
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this is always bad...it basically allows for collusion...no bueno
 
Poker Zombie said:
I'm glad Grandgnu brought this topic up. Our last home game we had our first ever frequent rule violator. His was the "I see your 50 and raise you 100" (or whatever the bets were at the time). I corrected him right away. Then it happened again. Then again. Then again.

I know he's not trying to angle shoot or get a read with a string bet; he's just not that sharp of an individual. He also states the "whole I see X and raise Y" in a quick single breath.

Like Gnu, I'm going to have a conversation with the noob pregame. I don't want to be the rules Nazi, but I have low tolerance (and Mrs PZ has zero tolerance) for allowing bad habits to leach into my home game. I want my players to find the transition from home games to casinos to be completely unnoticeable, and it only takes one "bad" player to start creating bad habits for the other players.
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Players could just shove and he wouldn't be able to do it. :). "I see your all in and raise you...um...er.

I don't like being a rules nazi either, but those rules are there for a reason. Eventually, they save you problems down the road.

Approach the violation light-heartedly at first. Most of the time, they simply don't know. Explain why the rule exists.

Second let them know you mean business and know that a third violation ain't happening.

Third violation...they're just not going to get it. Be Gone!

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