Discussion in 'Palm Gaming International' started by Tommy, Feb 6, 2015.
Does anyone know if Palm does hot stamping?
for Casinos only I think,
They do, but not all chips can be hot-stamped (china clays or ceramics, for instance). No problem with hot-stamping ABS chips. Not sure if they have the right equipment for hot-stamping compression-molded clays.
I wanted to get some TRKs hot stamped.
Then I'd highly recommend somebody who's hot-stamped TRK blanks before. Not worth risking irreplaceable chips.
Gotcha. PAZ told me someone in Germany has done it but could not remember who.
Meatboy, I think. Might try contacting cgraham or monkeydog, too.
I asked cgraham about a year ago about hot-stamping some TRK blanks, but he declined saying his equipment couldn't stamp them effectively. Monkeydog wasn't able to stamp them either. I suspect the material is getting harder with age (I remember JimB saying this happens to ASM chips also). Meatboy is the only one I haven't tried, but I did see he stamped some quarters for someone's Nevada Club set last year.
Tommy, are you looking for Kings Crown fracs or non-denoms? If so, we might be able to trade.
Yeah, David has confirmed that ASMs become harder to hotstamp with age. Not sure if the same applies to TRKs or not
I would suspect that older TRK and Paulson chips (and BCC, maybe to a slightly lesser degree) would harden less with age and be easier to stamp than older ASM chips -- simply because they are softer (+1 for lead content) to begin with.
ASM, Burt Co., and C&J/THC chips all seem to get very hard after many years. All lead-free.
I read somewhere an interview with Jim, and he said that Asm have not used lead.
Perhaps the problem is in the process of oxidation of the surface.
But with ASM chips that have already been in the game is almost 90% will fail.
The main problem with stamping TRK is they barely have a recess. To do it right, you have to get it perfect and then be able to scrape them. Much easier to stamp a chip with a deeper recess.
Chips stamped by TRK were perfect. I had some done by BCC. They were ok, but not scraped as well. Also had some older ASM Nevada mold stamped by BCC with mixed results. Seemed to be different results for different colors of chips. Not sure if that was because different colors are different material, or some other reason.
Also keep in mind that anyone that has not stamped a particular type of chip might need to practice to get it right. Pressure, etc has to be right. Maybe heat, but I'm not sure. I've seen some bad stamping where the die doesn't transfer well. Smearing, or even too light.
I read somewhere that Spinetti's does hot stamping. Contact them, they may be able to help you.
I reached out to Spinettis about this very thing. They don't hotstamp chips that they didn't sell to you, nor do they do it after the order for the chips themselves is placed. They've also been having some trouble with their equipment lately and declining some hot stamp orders.
That's what I've found -- the few places that will do it, will only do it on chips you buy from them. It seems to be dying service because there's labor involved and it takes skill to do it correctly. All chips are different due to material and recess.
It's a shame because I like the way you can use it to liven up a chip or add a denom. Also like that you can still see the chip color through it vs. a label that covers up the chip color.
Yeah...the market for clear labels to resemble hotstamps may be flooded soon.
That doesn't help people who want that look on TRK's. Like was stated before, no recess! Tommy, if you find a stamper, let me know, I am in need as well for some TRK stampage.
Add me to the list...I really want to create a custom Exit Only stamp and put it on about 200 Paulson chips. I'll mill the other hotstamps myself when I find the right chips to use.
There really is just so much at risk it seems. Even if the stamp takes and the chip's integrity is not compromised, i'd be worried about warping. I don't know i just couldnt found myself having precious chips ruined. I'll buy hotstamped chips any day of the week but to me it's not worth the risk to have older chips rehotstamped.
I was planning on hot stamping a custom cash set to no avail. Chipshippie was my go to guy for clear labels but I feel he too has gotten out of the poker game. Hot stamping might have gone the way of ASM.
monkeydog did a set of MGKs for me last year and i know is currently stamping some add-ons for courage's MD-50 312 set. he seems to be the only game in town at the moment, but i'm okay with that since he does excellent work. keep in mind he's a one-man hobby operation, though, and as noted above and elsewhere, it's a severely labor-intensive task, so you should be prepared to be patient.
Cory (cgraham86) recently resurfaced on CT. Dunno if he has an account here.
Corey did have an account here in the early days of PCF...
This is me. Still being. Patient.
Why can't china clays be hot stamped?
They break under the pressure.
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