Hot Stamping returning soon :) (1 Viewer)

[David Spragg]

Over the past few months we've done some work on and off and managed to get the hot-stamp equipment working again. Still in the testing mode but hopefully will be ready to go sometime in the new year.

We've tested chips from a number of molds. Looks as though we will get good results on A-Crest, CSQ & HHR molds, although the available stamping area on HHR is small. Other molds (probably due to different clay densities caused at pressing) did not work well.

Setting up for hotstamping does take a while for any order, with different settings needed for different color clay for example. Therefore, we are likely to adopt a 2 or even 3 stage pricing model for them.
ie - a setup charge (either for the order or per color) and then a cost per chip, or, a setup charge for the order plus a charge per extra color and a cost per chip.
The individual charges won't necessarily be high, but will reflect the fact the same labor is required for a small order as for a large one. Consequently a small order of multiple colors may be at least as expensive as inlaid, but a large order will be cheaper.
We have a couple of alphabet sets, a numeral set and a denom set of dies. I will show images nearer the time.
Anything else can be custom made at cost.

 

[links_slayer]

Cost for custom dies?

 

[links_slayer]

Awesome news btw!!!!

 

[Mr Tree]

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Prepare to take my money (again)

 

[David Spragg]

Cost for custom dies?

Varies according to the complexity and size of the die. The engraving company charges anything from $50-$200 for a die. Can't be more specific I'm afraid.
The pair of dies we had made for the samples I showed cost us $145 delivered for the pair to give you a clue.

 

[jbutler]

Huge and awesome news, David. Congrats!

 

[Ben]

Cost for custom dies?

^^This. Just when I had given up on the dream and figured something else out, here we go! Back to the drawing board.

OK seriously, we need a GB to buy the E&C, like NOW.

 

[David Spragg]

^^This. Just when I had given up on the dream and figured something else out, here we go! Back to the drawing board.

OK seriously, we need a GB to buy the E&C, like NOW.

I have no idea what to do about the E&C. Last time we asked, the owner would not even speak to us about it.

 

[RichMahogany]

Whoa!
Assuming no stamping of 3rd party chips?

 

[chipjoker]

Would I be able to use the standard denom stamps and get my casino name stampped (new die), or do I have to have a new die with both on it, denom and name?

 

[David Spragg]

Whoa!
Assuming no stamping of 3rd party chips?

No stamping of 3rd party chips. Most of the time it does not work anyway.

 

[David Spragg]

Would I be able to use the standard denom stamps and get my casino name stampped (new die), or do I have to have a new die with both on it, denom and name?

Yes you can do that. That's quite normal. I'm trying to find a way to show the stamps here. It's difficult without actually using them, but to put all of them in and stamp a chip at a time would take forever. It can take half an hour to install and set each one up, then you have to wait an hour for it to cool down etc. etc.
I have a photo of the dies themselves, will see what I can figure out.

 

[Toby]

More fantastic news from CPC! I'm so glad you're keeping our dreams alive. Sterling effort, bravo!

 

[David Spragg]

Here is a photo of 4 of the value dies (obviously it has been reversed in photoshop to show what they would stamp like, and yes I know the bottom two need cleaning).
In this set we have
5c, 10c, 25c, 50c, $1, $5, $10, $20, $25, $50, $100, $500, $1000

 

[Mr Tree]

So pardon my ignorance. If you have your own die made naming your set can it also include the demon on the same die or does that create problems?

Edit: I think I figured it out myself. You can only have to pay to create one die if you use the premade ones in conjunction with your custom set name denom right?

Are there any generic denoms without $ signs for tournament sets?

 

[Puggy]

Sorry David, but more questions. I have some dies @meatboy's. They have been made for handstamping machine. Can they be used in your equipment? I could send them to you for closer inspection at some point.

 

[bentax1978]

 

[Ben]

I know there was a 5k die (no dollar sign) at one point - whether it's survived the two transfers/ moves is another question.

David, would existing dies originally created to stamp Paulson and/or BCC (i.e. GCR, Avalon Club, etc.) be usable on your equipment?

 

[Mr Tree]

David thanks again for all you guys have done. I have a hotstamp project in mind that I was figuring to be dead in the water. Very excited about this.

 

[David Spragg]

I know there was a 5k die (no dollar sign) at one point - whether it's survived the two transfers/ moves is another question.

David, would existing dies originally created to stamp Paulson and/or BCC (i.e. GCR, Avalon Club, etc.) be usable on your equipment?

As far as I know, no they wouldn't. I remember that being tried years ago. They have to be a precise size to fit the holder on the machine.

 

[David Spragg]

I know there was a 5k die (no dollar sign) at one point - whether it's survived the two transfers/ moves is another question.

David, would existing dies originally created to stamp Paulson and/or BCC (i.e. GCR, Avalon Club, etc.) be usable on your equipment?

The 5000 was a 5 and three zeroes, not a single die. Still have those dies.

 

[David Spragg]

So pardon my ignorance. If you have your own die made naming your set can it also include the demon on the same die or does that create problems?

Edit: I think I figured it out myself. You can only have to pay to create one die if you use the premade ones in conjunction with your custom set name denom right?

Are there any generic denoms without $ signs for tournament sets?

The first question was already asked and answered earlier in the thread.
The only way to have numbers without $ signs is to use the single numeric dies. You will see how that works when I post about lettering later.

 

[David Spragg]

Sorry David, but more questions. I have some dies @meatboy's. They have been made for handstamping machine. Can they be used in your equipment? I could send them to you for closer inspection at some point.

Maybe, maybe not. Yes, if you send them sometime I will be able to tell by looking.

 

[David Spragg]

Here is an example of the lettering. You could fit 4 characters at a push but 3 looks better.

These are the two alphabets we have (image from the die makers catalog)

Mandolin we have 3 or 4 of each letter.
Rutland we have 2 of each letter and two each of 1 through 9 numerals plus 3 zeroes (so those are the ones used to make the 5000 or any other number without a $ sign)

 

[David Spragg]

Lastly, onto the foil.
At the moment we only have gold and only have a small amount (enough for testing)
I have to check to make sure exactly the right type and size we need as there are many different and the prices vary a lot also. Obviously the stuff I used for testing (I did the testing myself when I was at the factory last month) is good if we can get the same.
As long as the price isn't outrageous and there is no ridiculous minimum qty I don't mind getting a few colors in to test as the gold is not as good on white or DG as a darker one would be.

 

[moose]

I have a bunch of roman molds I want hotstamped. Would this be possible?

 

[David Spragg]

I have a bunch of roman molds I want hotstamped. Would this be possible?

You can't stamp old chips (well not on this machine anyway). After a while, when the clay has hardened to a degree, they will not stamp unless you apply sufficient pressure to break them.

 

[BGinGA]

David,

I am simply elated at the news of custom hot-stamping availability in the future.

I am assuming that any new dies ordered (at customer cost) could remain at CPC (at customer request) and be used by other customers (with original customer's permission)?

Thinking out loud here..... regarding acquisition of new dies..... as part of a collective effort, or perhaps group buy/ownership..... with rental possibilities...... driving down the cost for all....

Thoughts?

 

[BGinGA]

Oh..... and is it technically possible to have an inlay on one side of a chip and a hot-stamp on the opposite side?

 

[David Spragg]

David,

I am simply elated at the news of custom hot-stamping availability in the future.

I am assuming that any new dies ordered (at customer cost) could remain at CPC (at customer request) and be used by other customers (with original customer's permission)?

Thinking out loud here..... regarding acquisition of new dies..... as part of a collective effort, or perhaps group buy/ownership..... with rental possibilities...... driving down the cost for all....

Thoughts?

That's a pretty common concept, yes.