Tourney Home Tourney Chip Amount (1 Viewer)

[TrikyPenguin]

So I started using the standard 20p/20k stack in the calc and halfed the people as I probably won't be hosting more than 10 people at a time currently. Looking to get a 500 chip set and I'm thinking this will be my breakdown of chips.

25 x 100
100 x 125
500 x 125
1000 x 125
5000 x 25

Games will be either 10k or 20k starting stacks, blinds either 25/50 or 50/100 to start.

25 x 8
100 x 8
500 x 4
1000 x 7
5000 x 2 (dropped if we're starting 10k stacks)

Does this breakdown make sense or is there a better way to go about it? Any help would be appreciated as its my first time running a home tourney.

 

[danopoker]

I'd go with multiples of 20 instead of 25 for your set, and you can probably get away with slightly fewer 500s if that helps make the numbers sensible.

Also consider starting folks off with 25 x 12, 100 x 12, 500 x 3 or x 5 instead.

 

[justsomedude]

So I started using the standard 20p/20k stack in the calc and halfed the people as I probably won't be hosting more than 10 people at a time currently. Looking to get a 500 chip set and I'm thinking this will be my breakdown of chips.

25 x 100
100 x 125
500 x 125
1000 x 125
5000 x 25

Games will be either 10k or 20k starting stacks, blinds either 25/50 or 50/100 to start.

25 x 8
100 x 8
500 x 4
1000 x 7
5000 x 2 (dropped if we're starting 10k stacks)

Does this breakdown make sense or is there a better way to go about it? Any help would be appreciated as its my first time running a home tourney.

8/8/4/7 works and is a good way to stretch smaller chipsets. The only downside is players may be making a lot of change. 12/12/5/6 is probably the most popular starting stack option for t10k tournaments. Everyone gets a healthy number of chips, and change making is almost non-existent.

 

[danopoker]

Maybe your set could be:

25 x 120
100 x 140 (or 120)
500 x 80
1000 x 120 (or 140)
5000 x 40

You could deal with more than 10 players by yeah justsomedude already basically said what I was going to say

 

[TrikyPenguin]

8/8/4/7 works and is a good way to stretch smaller chipsets. The only downside is players may be making a lot of change. 12/12/5/6 is probably the most popular starting stack option for t10k tournaments. Everyone gets a healthy number of chips, and change making is almost non-existent.

So would a better chip amount be

25 x 150
100 x 150
500 x 80
1000 x 100
5000 x 20

 

[Mr Winberg]

25 x 100
100 x 125
500 x 125
1000 x 125
5000 x 25

Since you are using multitudes of 25 I'm going to assume that that's a restriction and base my feedback accordingly.

First, reduce the T500, you don't need more than 40, i.e. reduce to 50.

Secondly, now you can buy more T25! Having
25 x 125
100 x 125
means you can use 12/12/5/6 which in my opinion is much better than 8/8/4/7. That requires 50 T500, so good thing we rounded up.

Thirdly, 75 T1000 is enough if you introduce T5000 at color-ups, but I would probably have 100 to get more of them in play.

So my suggestion is
25 x 125
100 x 125
500 x 50
1000 x 100
5000 x 50 (always good to have more T5k than expected for versatility)
The last 50 can be other denoms that you relabel to be bounties, show-em, or whatever you fancy

 

[RichMahogany]

You don’t need 500 chips for an STT. 400 or even 300 chips will work depending on starting stack sizes

8/8/4/7/(2) 300 chips

12/12/5/6/(2) 400 chips

 

[Mr Winberg]

You don’t need 500 chips

What you need is to be able to support T20k stacks of 20/20/5/15 + color-ups, which is roughly 6... eh... 1000 chips rounded up.

 

[RichMahogany]

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What you need is to be able to support T20k stacks of 20/20/5/15 + color-ups, which is roughly 6... eh... 1000 chips rounded up.

Way too many chips for a single table and highly inefficient. A 1000 chip set if built properly can accommodate 3 tables of 10.

 

[TrikyPenguin]

Since you are using multitudes of 25 I'm going to assume that that's a restriction and base my feedback accordingly.

First, reduce the T500, you don't need more than 40, i.e. reduce to 50.

Secondly, now you can buy more T25! Having
25 x 125
100 x 125
means you can use 12/12/5/6 which in my opinion is much better than 8/8/4/7. That requires 50 T500, so good thing we rounded up.

Thirdly, 75 T1000 is enough if you introduce T5000 at color-ups, but I would probably have 100 to get more of them in play.

So my suggestion is
25 x 125
100 x 125
500 x 50
1000 x 100
5000 x 50 (always good to have more T5k than expected for versatility)
The last 50 can be other denoms that you relabel to be bounties, show-em, or whatever you fancy

Ya sorry, I'm waiting to hear back if i have to order in rolls of 25 or any number. So listening to all the suggestions, would you agree with this?

25 x 145
100 x 145
500 x 75
1000 x 100
5000 x 35

This way it should be more than enough for a single table game with color ups, but could also support a 2 table 12 person tourney if I need to. Dont have space in my house for more than that so I think this would be a good first set.

 

[Darson]

The STT T10k is my jam. I have multiple sets covering this game. A favorite breakdown is:
120 x T25
120 x T100
40 x T500
100 x T1k
20 x T5k

400 chips and about 10+ rebuys. Starting stack of 12/12/3/7. For more rebuys, I add more 1ks and 5s.

Another one that I’ve tried is this:
120 x T25
180 x T100
40 x T500
120 x T1k
40 x T5k

500 chips with starting stacks of 12/17/4/6 and plenty for rebuys.

 

[Mr Winberg]

would you agree with this?

25 x 145
100 x 145
500 x 75
1000 x 100
5000 x 35

This way it should be more than enough for a single table game with color ups, but could also support a 2 table 12 person tourney if I need to.

It's reasonable to build the set after your max. If your suggestion is reasonable depends on your intended breakdown and structure. It looks like you've added spares, which I agree with. In the numbers below I haven't added spares, so just round up as you see fit.

If you're going with 12/12/5/6 then just multiply by 12 for the starting stack requirements:

T25: 144
T100: 144
T500: 60
T1000: 72

That part is easy. Next is to determine the color-ups. How many denoms will be colored off? Well, since the tourney usually won't (but very well can) run past the 3000/6000 level, the T25 and T100 will definitely be colored off, and most likely the T500 too. There's 18000 in T25 and T100 on the table, and I'd personally use T1000 to color them off (you can use T5000 but then you need to alter the math below). That's 18 more T1000.

When coloring off the T500 there's 30k in T500, so 6 T5000 is enough.

If you only ever ran T10k 12/12/5/6 freezouts with a max of 12 players, the bare minimum is
T25: 144
T100: 144
T500: 60
T1000: 72+18=90
T5000: 6

If you use T20k stacks then add another 24 T5000. If you allow rebuys/addons you need more T5000 to cover that. How many? Tough question. Estimate a worst case, run the numbers and then buy even more than you think.

If you're in the neighborhood of having 400k+ in play then the T1000 run a risk of being colored-off, so you either need more T5000 or a few nice T25000 chips (or preferably plaques, cause they're cool).

If any math is wrong just correct it, it's the reasoning I'm trying to convey.

If you want other starting stacks, e.g. 8/8/4/7, 12/12/3/7, 16/16/4/6 (or the dreaded 20/20/5/5), then just start from the top using these numbers.

Way too many chips for a single table and highly inefficient.

I was just joking, but you're totally correct though.

 

[Legend5555]

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/basic-tournament-set-breakdowns-for-beginners-updated.49446/

 

[Beakertwang]

My favorite starting stack for a T25 base tourney is 8/13/3/7. Why buy more 25's than you need, when they're out of the tourney after an hour or so, anyway? And 3 T500's is plenty. Also, you don't need extra T100's to color up the T25's. Why add more T100's when they'll be off the table in an hour or so? Use T1000's to color up the T25's and T100's.

Most efficient setup (fewest chips) for a 10-player tourney:
T25 x 80
T100 x 80
T500 x 40
T1000 x 80
T5000 x 20

300 chips. But moar chips is always better.

 

[JustinInMN]

This is pretty simple.

12/12/5/6 * 10 is 120/120/50/60 for starting stacks.

Add 15 T1000 for color ups, and 20-40 T5000 for big stacks

So in multiples of 25 buy this:
125/125/50/75/25 for 400 chips.

Or if you want to think a little bigger...

8/8/4/7 * 20 is 160/160/80/140 for starting stacks.

Add 20 T1000 for color ups and 40 T5000 for big stacks/rebuys.

So in multiples of 25 buy this:
175/175/100/175/75 for 700 chips.

 

[justsomedude]

My favorite starting stack for a T25 base tourney is 8/13/3/7. Why buy more 25's than you need, when they're out of the tourney after an hour or so, anyway?

This brings up a very good point...

With WSOP and other BBA events switching to a t100 base, t25s may be going the way of the dinosaur.

I just switched my annual BBQ Tournament to a t100 base... and am happy that I can eliminate 350x t25s from the chip case.

FWIW I’m using a 10/6/6/3 starting stack, with a t100 base.

 

[BGinGA]

This is pretty simple.

12/12/5/6 * 10 is 120/120/50/60 for starting stacks.

Add 15 T1000 for color ups, and 20-40 T5000 for big stacks

So in multiples of 25 buy this:
125/125/50/75/25 for 400 chips.

Or if you want to think a little bigger...

8/8/4/7 * 20 is 160/160/80/140 for starting stacks.

Add 20 T1000 for color ups and 40 T5000 for big stacks/rebuys.

So in multiples of 25 buy this:
175/175/100/175/75 for 700 chips.

^^ This.

375-400 chips is plenty for 10 players, and 600-650 chips will support 20 (depending on minimum purchase quantities).

 

[AH77]

This is pretty simple.

12/12/5/6 * 10 is 120/120/50/60 for starting stacks.

Add 15 T1000 for color ups, and 20-40 T5000 for big stacks

So in multiples of 25 buy this:
125/125/50/75/25 for 400 chips.

Or if you want to think a little bigger...

8/8/4/7 * 20 is 160/160/80/140 for starting stacks.

Add 20 T1000 for color ups and 40 T5000 for big stacks/rebuys.

So in multiples of 25 buy this:
175/175/100/175/75 for 700 chips.

I’ve seen some suggestions to not even bother with T5000 chips as it results in too few chips in play at the end. Is it better to just buy more T1000 and end the tournament with only T1000 in play?

 

[Legend5555]

I’ve seen some suggestions to not even bother with T5000 chips as it results in too few chips in play at the end. Is it better to just buy more T1000 and end the tournament with only T1000 in play?

If you don't mind the amount of chips and the cost, then do what you want. Once you get beyond a single table though, you really need 5k chips for starting stacks higher than 10k IMO. Moving multiple barrels in for bets looks fun on TV, but it's actually annoying to do. Restacking 40+ chips gets tiring really quick.

 

[RichMahogany]

@Mr Winberg sorry went straight over my head for some reason

 

[Darson]

I’ve seen some suggestions to not even bother with T5000 chips as it results in too few chips in play at the end. Is it better to just buy more T1000 and end the tournament with only T1000 in play?

Personally, for our regular STT, I only bring out the 5ks if I run out of 1ks. This probably has more to do with my yellow chip fetish than game play but no one has complained and I get to take shots like this. Does anyone look sad?

 

[TrikyPenguin]

This brings up a very good point...

With WSOP and other BBA events switching to a t100 base, t25s may be going the way of the dinosaur.

I just switched my annual BBQ Tournament to a t100 base... and am happy that I can eliminate 350x t25s from the chip case.

FWIW I’m using a 10/6/6/3 starting stack, with a t100 base.

Do you just use 100/500/1000/5000?

 

[justsomedude]

Do you just use 100/500/1000/5000?

My tournament is not until May, but yes, that is what I will be using. With t25,000 chips for later level colorups.

 

[Legend5555]

Do you just use 100/500/1000/5000?

It's very standard in casinos these days to do 20k starting stacks of 10/4/7/2 with a T100 base chip. Adding more 5k chips if the starting stack is larger.

For home tournaments of 20 people or less, I like 15/5/6/2 to lessen change making if you can swing it.

 

[justsomedude]

For home tournaments of 20 people or less, I like 15/5/6/2 to lessen change making if in swing it.

I kinda dig that starting stack breakdown.

 

[AH77]

It's very standard in casinos these days to do 20k starting stacks of 10/4/7/2 with a T100 base chip. Adding more 5k chips if the starting stack is larger.

For home tournaments of 20 people or less, I like 15/5/6/2 to lessen change making if you can swing it.

I like that a lot for a STT. Basically can get by with 320 chips with a nice amount of chips in play from start to finish.

 

[BGinGA]

I’ve seen some suggestions to not even bother with T5000 chips as it results in too few chips in play at the end. Is it better to just buy more T1000 and end the tournament with only T1000 in play?

Really depends on the size of your event.

A single table of ten players with 10K starting stacks (12/12/5/6) and no re-buys will often end before the T500 chips are removed, leaving 125 total chips on the table (50x T500 and 75x T1000). If the T500 chips are colored-up with T5000, that leaves 80 total chips in play (75x T1000 and 5x T5000).

A 20-player T10K event will typically have 250 chips remaining with no T500 color-up (very unlikely) or 160 total chips (150/10) if replacing the T500s with T5000s. Replacing them with T1000s would create an unnecessarily large mound of 200x T1000 chips.

I consider a reasonable number of chips remaining in play at a tournament's conclusion to range from 80 to 160 total using just two denominations, with the sweet spot somewhere around 120 total and with roughly a 80%-20% breakdown. I generally plan for roughly 100x T1000 and the balance in T5000s once three-handed, but YMMV.

 

[TrikyPenguin]

So after going through all this, I'm liking the T100 base more and considering this:

15/5/6/2 20k starting stacks

T100 - 180 chips
T500 - 60 chips
T1000 - 110 chips
T5000 - 50 chips

400 chips total

If I find its needed then I might get a few 25k chips or plaques later on. I think this would be good for a 10-12 person max home tourney. This is including some extra 1000/5000's for color ups and spares. Let me know if this is sound or if I'm short/over at all

 

[TrikyPenguin]

Also, I don't mind having some extras in case of breakage or anything, and shipping to Canada costs a fortune so I would rather get more than less so I don't have to make multiple purchases

 

[BGinGA]

So after going through all this, I'm liking the T100 base more and considering this:

15/5/6/2 20k starting stacks

T100 - 180 chips
T500 - 60 chips
T1000 - 110 chips
T5000 - 50 chips

400 chips total

If I find its needed then I might get a few 25k chips or plaques later on. I think this would be good for a 10-12 person max home tourney. This is including some extra 1000/5000's for color ups and spares. Let me know if this is sound or if I'm short/over at all

If planning on using 15/5/6/2 stacks, I'd purchase the following:
180 x T100
60 x T500
100 x T1000
60 x T5000
------------------
400 chips

But personally, I'd go with 10/8/10/1 stacks, using this 400-chip set breakdown:

120 x T100
100 x T500
130 x T1000
50 x T5000

Includes 12 extra T1000 chips plus 38 extra T5000 chips for color-ups, re-buys, and starting stacks larger than 20k. I think it's ultimately more playable, and better than spending money on 60 more T100s that will only see play during the first few levels.