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As some of you know, my wife and I like to host casino fun nights from time to time. They're a blast in the winter when nobody has anything going on. We've wanted to kick it up a notch with the addition of craps or roulette. We settled on roulette for the simplicity and we can make use of our unused pool table to boot. While craps is great fun 80% of our friends don't know how to play, and frankly there isn't time to teach them on game night.

I've spent way too much time going back and forth on what wheel to buy. I wasn't up for spending the multiple thousands needed for a casino one (nor do we have the space) but I didn't want a $100 12 inch piece of plastic either.

The Dal Negro 50 cm came well recommended but it was difficult to find a decent one on the used market. I finally bit the bullet and ordered one from the UK and it was delivered in two days. @justsomedude and I were joking that in the time it took for my wheel to get here from the UK my box of boxes went from his studio to the UPS Store and no further! :D

Without further ado, here's the outcome.

Fragile! It must be Italian! The box was wrapped in plastic and it had just one dent. Not too bad for an international journey.
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After getting rid of 90% of the packing material, here it is. Seriously - this thing was overpacked. I wonder if the distributor is a PCFer on the side? Yes, it's a single zero which is exactly what we were hoping for. Too bad there are no layouts to match without getting into custom work.

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Some mockups. If my calculations are right I'll probably want to have 400x$5, 300x$25, 200x$100,100x$500 on the table, plus 60-80x$1,000, 20x$5,000 and 5x$25,000. That means I need some more 43mms but I'm already locked in competition with my dad who needs about a dozen $1ks for his own purposes. (PS - If anyone has Primary CLE HS $1k/$5k/$25k they're itching to get rid of, shoot me a PM).

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This indicator tree is kind of cool. I originally got one of the wraparound chip displays but realized that they are made for full sized wheels. The tree is nice because it also cuts down on the real estate needed on the table. Eventually I'll get a set of lammers to use instead of denom chips.

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Last but not least, how does it roll? Let's take it for a spin! It's very easy to over-spin this sucker and send the ball flying. Even at such high speeds everything is super smooth and unlike some of the plastic ones I've seen there's no risk of sending the whole thing flying.
 
That wheel is pretty nice. Seems to have quite a good bearing in it. I've pondered about making one of these next. The wheel puts it out of reach based on the cost of a good one. Kudos (y) :thumbsup:
 
Very nice wheel! I, too, host (or did before kids) a casino night from time to time. I didn't want to spend that much on the wheel so I ended up going with the 18" Trademark wheel for $100. It has a very nice bearing and it's given me no issues.

I'd encourage you to try out craps at casino night. It doesn't take too long for people to learn the basics of the pass line. I do Craps, BJ, and Roulette and Craps is by far the crowd favorite.
 
They advertise a double ball bearing and it is very smooth. I cranked it as hard as I could and it did spin for almost two minutes. I forgot to upload this picture but here's the spindle it rides on:

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The other thing I like is the wheel is completely metal. No plastic frets to break. If anything breaks it's going to be a ball.
I'd encourage you to try out craps at casino night. It doesn't take too long for people to learn the basics of the pass line. I do Craps, BJ, and Roulette and Craps is by far the crowd favorite.
Definitely not opposed - but another concern is how well it runs without having multiple dealers to manage the table. I'd be afraid of only getting a few games in during the 30 minute periods. How do you work with that?
 
Definitely not opposed - but another concern is how well it runs without having multiple dealers to manage the table. I'd be afraid of only getting a few games in during the 30 minute periods. How do you work with that?

We do 4 45 minute periods and it didn't seem to be an issue. 6-7 on the table. I usually split dealing with someone else. Having enough people to deal its the real issue. Make some cheat sheets for the dealer, and just limit the real oddball bets.
 
Do you have a link for the dal negro wheel?
The only place I've found that carries them at retail is Masters Traditional Games - https://www.mastersofgames.com/cat/table/roulette-dnwheel-montecarlo50-quadratto.htm (switch to USD to see approx US prices without VAT). Masters also sells on eBay but at the time I ordered their retail price plus shipping was a bit cheaper than their eBay price that advertised free shipping. I also got a couple other odds and ends that wouldn't be possible with buying on eBay.
 
Are they double sided? Any chance of an edge pic?
Yes double sided. Here's a stack, the edges have a 45 degree point in the middle. Interestingly the heights aren't 100% uniform. A stack of eight 50s is about half a lammer taller than the other stacks. The 25 which also uses black plastic as the base is the same size as the rest.

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Yes double sided. Here's a stack, the edges have a 45 degree point in the middle. Interestingly the heights aren't 100% uniform. A stack of eight 50s is about half a lammer taller than the other stacks. The 25 which also uses black plastic as the base is the same size as the rest.

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Oh great....Red Ott is making lammers now...:LOL: :laugh:
 
here's the lammers i use.... for roulette chip value of $100, $25, $5, $1, and $0.25 respectively.

are you going to have chip values of: $25, $10, $5, $2.5, $1.25, $0.50, $0.25 and $0.05?
It's for flexibility. The lammer rack has eight tubes, therefore following PCF protocol I must have eight unique sets of lammers. We use HS CLE chips for the value chips so normal roulette would be $1, $5, $25, $100, or $500. Max bet is $500, so if you're playing $500 chips you can have one chip per bet. Probably not going to be many takers.

I got the non-traditional amounts (10, 50, 200) because Ohio has some weird rules concerning charitable gaming. Cards for money are fine, but you are not allowed to have roulette or craps for money. However apparently you can have craps or roulette for raffle tickets. At our church fund raising nights a guy used to run a craps table where your winnings were paid in tickets for the sideboard raffles (they also sell raffle tickets separately). You'd buy in with regular chips and your denoms are in cents, so for example 200 = $2. When the "casino" chips are valued at $1, $5, and $10 that means people would want to play with things like 10 cents and 50 cents, maybe a buck or two hence the 10, 50, and 200.

When you cash out they take your total, divide by 100 and that's how many raffle tickets you get. Since there's no way to go from raffle tickets to cash it's not craps or roulette for money.

The guy who ran the craps table moved to an out of state nursing home and nobody knows where the table went so there's currently a hole in the non-card game category. I need to look into making sure that buying in for money and paying out in raffle tickets is really OK, but if it is I'll probably volunteer my goods at the next festival.
 

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