Holy crap, this is overwhelming. Help with Tourney Set (1 Viewer)

[JScott]

Some great advice here people. Thanks.

security with my current group is a complete non issue, but I do want to open it up so the advice is great.

I may just sell the yin yangs or keep them as backups for the super low stakes cash. The breakdown wouldn’t really work for tourney and I’d basically be starting from scratch anyways. I like the ones you posted Darson, I may even go up a bit and get Nevada jacks for tourney.

so say that’s what I do. What do you suggest for a cash set? I really like our 25¢/50¢/$1/$10 breakdown. I switched it to 25/1/10 and no one liked it the other day. It’s just the way we play. Hell I might even switch to 50¢/$1/$10 and switch blinds to 50/50.

 

[Legend5555]

Some great advice here people. Thanks.

security with my current group is a complete non issue, but I do want to open it up so the advice is great.

I may just sell the yin yangs or keep them as backups for the super low stakes cash. The breakdown wouldn’t really work for tourney and I’d basically be starting from scratch anyways. I like the ones you posted Darson, I may even go up a bit and get Nevada jacks for tourney.

so say that’s what I do. What do you suggest for a cash set? I really like our 25¢/50¢/$1/$10 breakdown. I switched it to 25/1/10 and no one liked it the other day. It’s just the way we play. Hell I might even switch to 50¢/$1/$10 and switch blinds to 50/50.

25¢/$1/$5 then $20 or $25 if necessary.

Don't use chips that merely half the size of the previous denomination. The only exception is 50¢ and $1 if you are CONFIDENT that 50¢/50¢ is the lowest you'd play. And even then I don't think it's really worth it.

 

[RichMahogany]

Some great advice here people. Thanks.

security with my current group is a complete non issue, but I do want to open it up so the advice is great.

I may just sell the yin yangs or keep them as backups for the super low stakes cash. The breakdown wouldn’t really work for tourney and I’d basically be starting from scratch anyways. I like the ones you posted Darson, I may even go up a bit and get Nevada jacks for tourney.

so say that’s what I do. What do you suggest for a cash set? I really like our 25¢/50¢/$1/$10 breakdown. I switched it to 25/1/10 and no one liked it the other day. It’s just the way we play. Hell I might even switch to 50¢/$1/$10 and switch blinds to 50/50.

$10s are strange in a cash set with those denoms but could work without a $5. Still, I’d ditch it and use a $5.

As far as breakdowns, there’s a tons of threads already with great advice. My preferred cash breakdown for 1000 chips is 100/200/400/200/100 fracs—>$100s

 

[JScott]

$10s are strange in a cash set with those denoms but could work without a $5. Still, I’d ditch it and use a $5.

As far as breakdowns, there’s a tons of threads already with great advice. My preferred cash breakdown for 1000 chips is 100/200/400/200/100 fracs—>$100s

Makes sense, the main reason we use the $10 is when this game started years ago we always played low stakes with $10 buy in. This way guys can bring $20's and have a stack of chips in front of them and a $10 to cash in when they go bust. Also, I have to say I love my $10 plaques. We avoid the $5's with this set mostly because I just can't stand the colour, too close to the 25c.

The added bonus is with $10 buy ins the guys aren't so nitty as they have another buy in ready to go when they bust

And the breakdown I have figured out for cash, that's not an issue. Just not sure what chips are even good. I'll just keep kicking at classifieds.

 

[RichMahogany]

One thing I would advise for you and any other noob is to use the search function.

Seriously.

There’s a wealth of knowledge and information here, a lot of which has been posted ad nauseam. Pick one topic, say leaded THCs, and jump down the rabbit hole.

 

[JScott]

I've been the veteran on forums before so trust me, I know how frustrating noobies like me can be. My one big feedback on that is the search function is a little less intuitive on mobile than I'm used to, I've found it's helped a lot since I've started using my desktop to search. Not trying to make excuses, just the software guy in me coming out. haha

The issue I'm running into now is there's SO much info. But yes, I definitely will.

Thanks again guys!

 

[Beakertwang]

My first tourney set was a set of Outlaws.
https://www.discountpokershop.com/25pc-13g-law-clay-poker-chips-colors-p-722.html

At 14c per chip, you can get 200/200/100/200/100 set for $112 plus shipping. Spend your money on your cash set where security is far more important.

I just got my first sample of the Monaco Casino chips from the same website. I’m pleasantly surprised. They’re a bit more slippery than I prefer, but they look and feel pretty good, and have a simple inlay with a nice large denomination.

 

[JScott]

Okay guys, so I did my research, or a least a good bit of it. First off, a mod can move this to the Tournament/Cash forum, seems it would be better placed there.

I'm currently looking at Dias de los Muertos ceramics from ABC. Probably going to replace my cash set AND get a tourney set at the same time.


These are my breakdowns. If you wonder why my cash set has a small bank, it's because we usually only do $20-40 total buy ins for our game. Yes, it's low for a .25/.50 game, but it's worked out well so far without complaints. $1000 is more than enough bank as we've never had more than $350 on our table at a time. It's only a 6 person game and I don't plan on growing that one, it's an intimate social group that I love to play with. If I feel the need to add to this it would be making brown $100 Plaques.

As for Tournaments, here we go. Thinking T15 or T20K. With or without T25's. @Legend5555 makes a lot of sense with his comments about ditching the T25, I may add them in the future, but here are my options:

Keep in mind, even though I'm saying 16-20 players, I'm going to be running a weekly tournament of 6-12 max. The 20 person is only future proofing it.

Option A:
100/100 starting blinds
T20K/T25K Starting stacks 16-20 players

Option B:
25/50 starting blinds
T5K/T10K starting stacks 16-20 players
T15K (Could only do freezeout with this it seems as T10000 is all your chips outside of the T5000's). I can't see it being advisable to use T5000's for half your starting stack right?

Am I on the right track?

 

[LotsOfChips]

I vote for keeping the T25's, but that's just my nooby opinion, as almost every tourney I have played in has been T10k (except for @grantc54's T55Million extravaganza, which was huge fun). As many have told me, its your set, its your game, set it up the way that you like best. (That's not to say that some ways don't flow better than others, and IMO, T10k tourneys flow well)

 

[RichMahogany]

If you do start with a T25 base, i’d have the first blind level start at 50/100 or 100/100. To make 20k starting stacks, add 2 T5000 chips per stack. Easy peasy

 

[JScott]

If you do start with a T25 base, i’d have the first blind level start at 50/100 or 100/100. To make 20k starting stacks, add 2 T5000 chips per stack. Easy peasy

Oh I haven't even started on the blinds yet. That's a whole bunch more crap I need to read! The thing is, there's no right answer. I wish there was. 10 people BAM, 18 BAM. blinds X/X and X/X. But nooooo, it has to be complicated as balls

If you guys are thinking T10K or the Option B I guess I could do your recommendation Rich, but then we're at the utmost top of my budget. And that doesn't count the Canuckistan tax and shipping. ugh

 

[CdnBeerLover]

Your cash game sounds like ours. If cost is a concern, you don't need that many chips. You could have

150 x 0.25
150 x $1
100 × $5

Buy-in of 12 × 0.25 and 12 x $1 per player, and the rest in $5. Or 20 x 0.25 and 20 x $1 per player and the rest in $5. It works for us for our 25c/ 25c game.

 

[Legend5555]

My reasoning for ditching T25s:

1. It reduces the total amount of chips you need. 20k T100 starting at 100/100, runs nearly identical to 5k T25 starting at 25/25.

2. A lot of casinos are moving toward a T100 system now that the Big Blind Ante has been fairly well adopted. So doing the same in a home game just keeps it in line with what one might experience at a casino.

3. It reduces counting issues. Not that i'm saying people can't count, but counting out uneven stacks of 25s can be annoying.

4. It allows you to run a tournament and a cash game off the same set assuming your cash game is small and has no need for $100 chips.

5. If you use the BBA, the smaller denom chips get chipped up much earlier. So the T25s have limited usefulness.

In 4-5 hour home tournaments. It doesn't really matter what you go with though. You can adjust any structure to end in the correct amount of time.

 

[JScott]

I think I'll go that route @Legend5555, Now I just need to see if my breakdown is enough.



You suggested this: Only $50 more and allows me to go into the 1000 chip discount.

 

[Legend5555]

T100 - 200
T500 - 80
T1000 - 150
T5000 - 150
T25k - 20

To cover my suggested 20k stack with rebuys for 2 tables. You should have at minimum a total of 800,000 bank with just your 1k and 5k chips too be safe as those are the only chips typically in play at the end. A few 25k (like 20) for extra safety and deeper stack stuff. The above even covers 20 person 30k starting stacks with rebuys. Or 60k freezeout.

Whatever else you want is up to you.

 

[Legend5555]

@JScott , sometimes you are forced to buy in increments of 25 chips. If that is the case, get 100 T500, 125 T5000, 25 T25k. Same total bank. Seeing as plaques may be involved, do what you feel is necessary financially.

 

[JScott]

@JScott , sometimes you are forced to buy in increments of 25 chips. If that is the case, get 100 T500, 125 T5000, 25 T25k. Same total bank. Seeing as plaques may be involved, do what you feel is necessary financially.

ABC doesn’t require those increments. So I’m good with your suggestion.
I’m basically going to do what you recommended but with fewer t25k. Just thinking a couple plaques, but otherwise the same.