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With my beloved and highly esteemed Tony Chan being:
-overwhelmed with orders
-too far away (crippling shipping cost)
-in another Customs zone (crippling Customs fees and import taxes)
I turned to the European equivalent, Pascal Jarque, in France. At least we 're in the same Customs zone.
I can read French, so he writes to me in French and I reply in English, which he also understands.

I need top quality, as this is going to be our home's main -and only- dining table too.

Pascal has some pre-determined sizes, so I picked 122x202cm, or 48x80in, to accommodate 8 people imperially, 9 decently, or 10 poker players really cramped (certainly not oversized American players, and certainly not dinner attendants) :p

The source of inspiration has been the #64 table, while the legs are going to be the Marengo ones (#71, 55, 28).
http://tables-de-poker.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=130&Itemid=283&lang=fr


Pascal tends to place cup holders (if any) on the playing surface.
And he has only installed SMALL cup holders on the armrest. 'Cause he has never built an armrest wider than 9cm.
I asked for LARGE cupholders on the armrest.

He promised to try re-program his CNC for a wider rail, capable of accommodating large cup holders, without being sure.
I guess, if he cannot guarantee the longevity of the work, I 'll have to buy some narrow whisky glasses :)

More to follow.
Hopefully, the table's pics around late October.
 
The main table is 2cm thick and the armrest/rail is just 2cm thick too, so, in order to contain any cupholders on the rail (to keep them from protruding under the table), we 'll need another 2cm of raised rail.

That will result, of course, in the following heights, from the floor:
-74cm for the playing surface
-78cm for the armrest
-80cm for the dining surface
Given that no children will ever have dinner on that table, I guess that the old-fashioned 80cm height will be OK.
 
Coyote said:
With my beloved and highly esteemed Tony Chan being:
-overwhelmed with orders
-too far away (crippling shipping cost)
-in another Customs zone (crippling Customs fees and import taxes)
I turned to the European equivalent, Pascal Jarque, in France. At least we 're in the same Customs zone.
I can read French, so he writes to me in French and I reply in English, which he also understands.

I need top quality, as this is going to be our home's main -and only- dining table too.

Pascal has some pre-determined sizes, so I picked 122x202cm, or 48x80in, to accommodate 8 people imperially, 9 decently, or 10 poker players really cramped (certainly not oversized American players, and certainly not dinner attendants) :p

The source of inspiration has been the #64 table, while the legs are going to be the Marengo ones (#71, 55, 28).
http://tables-de-poker.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=130&Itemid=283&lang=fr


Pascal tends to place cup holders (if any) on the playing surface.
And he has only installed SMALL cup holders on the armrest. 'Cause he has never built an armrest wider than 9cm.
I asked for LARGE cupholders on the armrest.

He promised to try re-program his CNC for a wider rail, capable of accommodating large cup holders, without being sure.
I guess, if he cannot guarantee the longevity of the work, I 'll have to buy some narrow whisky glasses :)

More to follow.
Hopefully, the table's pics around late October.
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Wow! What a selection. I guess business is good over there?
 
Dining tops on foam are a little problematic as the rail will always have some give, resulting in a slightly squishy/wobbly table. I never lean on tables, but have learned that others do! :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: Mostly my topper stays put pretty nicely, but it always catches people a bit off guard when it does shift. I guess a foolproof solution would be a rail without foam, and if I was getting a table made now I’d certainly consider it.

FWIW my dining surface measures to 75cm height, with 65cm legroom under the table. Chairs matter, I suppose.
 
No room for carts in this house (especially for storing them)
He is said to be very experienced, so some hard cushioning on the armrest, supporting the dining cover.
@mipevi chairs will be bought locally, to live up to the 80cm dining height
@Thomacetti it's going to be 5,5K Euros, which is reasonable for a bourgeois main dining table :)
The Marengo black aluminium legs alone are half the price...
The wife is in love with them...
 
Looks great.. My Polish soul would wish you go with Biasov but.....
 
They do look very nice, although at €5.5k it’s way over my budget. I spent €300 on my table. Would be cool to some day own a really nice table like these though
 
Eriks said:
They do look very nice, although at €5.5k it’s way over my budget. I spent €300 on my table. Would be cool to some day own a really nice table like these though
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I was lucky... When they closed After Dark Warsaw (8 years in bussines) one of the owners showed me pile of tables to choose from... Took the biggest... BIASOV


Pic is from Internet but mine is identical

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I was just flicking through channels and saw how Expendables 3 are ruining few pretty decent looking poker tables... (not to mention chips)...
 
Coyote said:
[...]
Pascal tends to place cup holders (if any) on the playing surface.
And he has only installed SMALL cup holders on the armrest. 'Cause he has never built an armrest wider than 9cm.
I asked for LARGE cupholders on the armrest.
[...]
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I like your choice of a wider armrest.
My table is 210x106cm with a 12cm armrest. I like the heftier look it gives the table even if don't have cup holders in it. :tup:
Are you gonna have a dealer cutout, chiptray ect on your table as well?
 
No dealer cut and no chip tray.
Also, no pre-set seats and numbers on the felt, to be flexible (from imperial 8 players to cramped 10 players).

The table should be ready as we 'll be leaving for Egypt (we 'll keep our Athenian home though and that's where the table will stay).
Hopefully, some Athenian meet-up could be organised at some Xmas or Easter, or summer, in the following 2 years.

Pascal is in deep shock at the prospect of a 12cm rail, considering it fat-American and vulgar.:D
We 'll see.

Edit: Also forgot to mention that my aunt is paying for this table :p
 
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I also think installing just 8 cup holders, corresponding to the imperial seating, rather than 10, corresponding to the cramped seating.
If more than 8 players, someone will have to live without a cup holder.
Correct?
 
Slide in cupholders are not an option?
This would be more flexible for the imperial and crammed days alike.
I've been planning to use these myself but then I've heard myself saying: "no fking beverages on my table you animals!"

All a matter of preference I guess. :ninja:
 
I don’t have any problem with cup holders in the rail when they are directly in front of the players, arms resting on both sides. But if you have 8 holders with 10 players, someone’s elbow is bound to be uncomfortable. On my table the 8 cup holders kind of mark spots for players, and I would not try to squeeze in any more people. If your table is 10max, I would get that many cup holders or none at all.
 
When I emailed them they let me know that they can't put cupholders in the rail if I want LED. That was a showstopper for me.

Good luck with the order, following with interest!
 
mipevi said:
I don’t have any problem with cup holders in the rail when they are directly in front of the players, arms resting on both sides. But if you have 8 holders with 10 players, someone’s elbow is bound to be uncomfortable. On my table the 8 cup holders kind of mark spots for players, and I would not try to squeeze in any more people. If your table is 10max, I would get that many cup holders or none at all.
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The problem is that with 10 cupholders you get the cramped seating anyway, all the time.

And, I guess slide-in cupholders are not an option with a raised rail.
 
I just measured my 8max table, it's roughly 100x175cm with beefy rails. I'd say 8max gets pretty crowded. My group mostly play 5-6 handed though, and I try to balance the seating to allow for max elbow room. Players don't need to sit dead center in front of a cup holder, can always shift a few cm to either direction without them becoming an issue. But I agree the logistics of it gets more challenging with 10 cup holders and ~8 players...

Custom cup holders on the felt with tungsten bases to keep them from falling over? Or for epic boss level you could try to incorporate...
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Seriously though, if you want to play with 10 people, get that many cup holders. The spreading out I described above would work wonderfully for 7 players (or less, of course). With ten seats you'd have three left open, so basically you'd have people sitting in groups of 2+2+3. In the groups of 2 the players take a couple of cm extra space from each other, and in the group of 3 the middle player sits straight in front of his cup holder and the others move a bit to the sides. I think this should work fine. When you get to 8+ players, it will be more crowded.
 
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I hate playing 10 handed. My casino does it all the time (10 players + the dealer).
It's fking crammed and very slow. And that is with players that actually came to play poker and a dealer to move things along.

In my group of players, there are only 2, maybe 3 players at the table who actually come for the poker. The rest is there to socialize, tell a good story, drink and have fun. I've had exactly one game with 10 players and wanted to kill myself after 10 hands or 1 1/2 hours in. :rolleyes:

For that exact reason, I built my table designed for 8 players so that this situation could never occure again. ;)
 

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