Help Me With a Cash Set Breakdown That's Versatile Enough For Multiple Stakes (1 Viewer)

[upNdown]

Oh dear

 

[Coyote]

Oh dear

 

[OfficerLovejoy]

Why not have both a green and a hot pink $20?

 

[chipinla]

$25s don't need to be green, they can be purple too, in CA:

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How about a purple $20??

 

[Coyote]

Cali fuchsia $20 and purple $10 (Athenian Owl Club V2)

 

[chipinla]

Cali fuchsia $20 and purple $10 (Athenian Owl Club V2)
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Confession… sometimes I sit alone in a room and just look at pics of your Athenian Owl set

 

[TheOffalo]

Confession… sometimes I sit alone in a room and just look at pics of your Athenian Owl set

Stop staring at his hooters

 

[chipinla]

Stop staring at his hooters

What can I say? They look great in racks

 

[chipinla]

 

[Coyote]

Confession… sometimes I sit alone in a room and just look at pics of your Athenian Owl set

Stop staring at his hooters

What can I say? They look great in racks

What?

 

[dpeks13]

This thread was a great read. Thanks for posting!

 

[TheDirtMerchant]

I've given this more thought.

Capped at 100 bb for a 1/2 NLHE game, the average 'player' will buy in for the max, and then likely rebuy 2 x, but let's cut it down to 1.5x.

$200 x 1.5 = $350 x 10 = $ 3500​

Capped at 100 bb - 1/2 NLHE 2x

$200 x 2 = $400 x 10 = $ 4900​

Capped at 100 bb - 1/2 NLHE 3x

$200 x 3 = $600 x 10 = $ 6000​

Capped at 100 bb - 1/2 NLHE 4x - Just us degens

$200 x 4 = $800 x 10 = $ 8000​

Same thing .25 / 50 game
$50 x 1.5 = $75 x 10 = $ 750
$50 x 2 = $100 x 10 = $ 1000
$50 x 3 = $150 x 10 = $ 1500
$50 x 4 = $200 x 10 = $ 2000

In the 1/2 I think the second scenario is more likely, 1 buy in and 1 full rebuy - in a 1/2 your workhorse is going to be the 5
In the .25/.50 I think the third scenario is more likely, 1 buy in and 2 full rebuys, workhorse is the 1

Assertion (premises) - In a 1/2 game no needs more than $10 in $1 chips. (This is the primary factor in chip break down, after bank needs)
Assumption - this is not a raked game

.25 / .50 Game

.25 x 80 - Ceiling of chip count for the denom
$1 x 200 - Ceiling of chip count for the denom
$5 x 140
20 x 60
Bank = 3720

1 / 2 Game

$1 x 100
$5 x 300 - Ceiling of chip count for the denom
$20 x 120 - Ceiling of chip count for the denom
$100 x 40 (this is 50% of the bank and a safety net) - Ceiling of chip count for the denom
bank = 8000 (for the degens)

Consolidation of chips

Chip denom​	Quantity ​	Total Value in Units
.25​	80​	20
1​	200​	200
5​	300​	1500
20​	120​	2400
100​	40​	4000
	740​	8120​

I think this would be a buy once, cry once situation, even if you disagree with the number of $1s that players would need to start with, please note nowhere in this post do I refer to 1s as white, if you are visualizing $1s as white you have been brain washed and are bias; we do have a support group for that, search 'Cali' its like taking the red pill!

Still looking for my mic drop emoji..

This is a great thread. Very helpful. And this buy once/cry once count is very close to where I'm landing...
Is it ok if I threadjack a bit...

I'm looking for a similar set and play similar stakes. BUT...
2 additional pieces of info...
1. What changes if you don't want to limit the chips (within reason of course)?
2. I'm getting in the Art-Supplied Card Mold with the Taj artwork...and I love the $25 because of nostalgia...and the $20 because of nostalgia.

Do I buy both and split the proposed 120 (125)? Or buy 125 of each (buy once cry once) and at game time ask the players to choose between 20/25?

 

[Machine]

with the cost of the chip buy 120/125 of both, then ONLY put one into play. If there is no cap on the buy in you might take this up to 200 and get a full rack of 100.

 

[TheDirtMerchant]

with the cost of the chip buy 120/125 of both, then ONLY put one into play. If there is no cap on the buy in you might take this up to 200 and get a full rack of 100.

Apologies, not clear what you're saying here.
You're agreeing buy

125x $20 and 125x $25 and only put one in play.
OR
If I don't have a chip cap, buy 200x of only 1 (either $20 or $25)?

 

[aggie]

Your game runs very similar to one of mine, and 100/200/300/160/40 (800) takes care of the entire range.

If I don't have a chip cap, buy 200x of only 1 (either $20 or $25)?

If you don't have a chip cap, buy 100/200/400/200/100, and get whichever $20/25 your gut leans toward (or both -- they just shouldn't see play at the same time).

If you do have a cap, I still recommend buying in round numbers (e.g., 100 instead of 125). The reason is because chip quantities are typically counted/stacked/"measured" by the "barrel" (20) in-game and upon cash-out, so having 125 or 150 of a denomination will require you to always count the spares at the end of the night instead of simply filling racks. The $100s are a reasonable exception because they likely won't see play as often. Just my 2c.

 

[chipinla]

If you don't have a chip cap, buy 100/200/400/200/100, and get whichever $20/25 your gut leans toward (or both -- they just shouldn't see play at the same time).

If you do have a cap, I still recommend buying in round numbers (e.g., 100 instead of 125). The reason is because chip quantities are typically counted/stacked/"measured" by the "barrel" (20) in-game and upon cash-out, so having 125 or 150 of a denomination will require you to always count the spares at the end of the night instead of simply filling racks. The $100s are a reasonable exception because they likely won't see play as often. Just my 2c.

Always have to factor in extras though for loss/damage/etc. Nothing worse than a 99 chip rack five years from now.

 

[Machine]

For 37c if you like both, I would buy both, but as @aggie clarified, only one in play at a time. Buy 100 x 20 and 200 x 25. When the game starts you'll know / figure out which to put in

 

[TheDirtMerchant]

Always have to factor in extras though for loss/damage/etc. Nothing worse than a 99 chip rack five years from now.

Curious...what's the number of extras you (or anyone) has used?
I'm figuring if the recommendation is: 80/200/300/120/40 and I go with 100/225/325/150/75
That covers it, right? 20-35 extras on each denom? Or are we talking about 4-5 extras...?

 

[Machine]

well personally I think your count is fine, but when you say no cap, I can only think of 4 guys sitting down and buying in for 1k each, that's about 1/2 your bank roll and if the game goes all night and there are bust outs and buy ins, it could be a challenge.

200 BB is typically considered deep stack, so in a 1/2 thats 400, in a 2/5 thats 1000, are you sure you meant no cap?

 

[chipinla]

Curious...what's the number of extras you (or anyone) has used?
I'm figuring if the recommendation is: 80/200/300/120/40 and I go with 100/225/325/150/75
That covers it, right? 20-35 extras on each denom? Or are we talking about 4-5 extras...?

I personally order 10 extras of each denomination that I keep stored away.

 

[TheDirtMerchant]

well personally I think your count is fine, but when you say no cap, I can only think of 4 guys sitting down and buying in for 1k each, that's about 1/2 your bank roll and if the game goes all night and there are bust outs and buy ins, it could be a challenge.

200 BB is typically considered deep stack, so in a 1/2 thats 400, in a 2/5 thats 1000, are you sure you meant no cap?

Sorry. Noob here. I was using the chip cap/no-cap reference as trying to keep the chip purchase count down
Not in reference to buy-in.

My fault for confusing the terminology.

 

[Machine]

So typically, you would calc the chip counts off of the game you plan to spread. The buy in cap, is set off of the blinds and you can have a little control of the 'tempo' of the game. I want to keep the game smallish, so in a .25/.50 game, I set the max buy in to 65.

some places sell chips by the 25 not by the barrel, typically you want increments ending in 0, so picking up 50 works out to set aside 10.

 

[Colquhoun]

I usually buy a barrel (20) of each as extra…but then I’m on tilt when the barrel isn’t complete.

Maybe I should buy extras in odd numbers….

 

[pltrgyst]

If you have a chip set beginning with $1s (e.g., 1-5-20/25-100), it can be used for *any* stakes through simple arithmetic at buy-in and cash-out.

If you can handle that concept, but have players who can't, all the better for you to take advantage of the dummies.