Help for identify an old roulette wheelcheck set (1 Viewer)

By the way, you can probably press the inlay back into place and the chip won't look too much worse for the trauma it's endured. On the one I took apart, the inlay snapped firmly back into place when I pressed it hard enough around all the edges.

A little dab of glue might be a good idea just to help ensure it doesn't come loose in the future.
 
Sorry to bump and old thread, but thought this was interesting. The clay die cut chips were made as late as 1991. In one of Robert E's sample binders, he had received a few chips from Langworthy and one page brochure as well.

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Sorry to bump and old thread, but thought this was interesting. The clay die cut chips were made as late as 1991. In one of Robert E's sample binders, he had received a few chips from Langworthy and one page brochure as well.



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Oh, seems those are exactly same chips! Thanks!
 
Sorry to bump and old thread, but thought this was interesting. The clay die cut chips were made as late as 1991. In one of Robert E's sample binders, he had received a few chips from Langworthy and one page brochure as well.

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I had some of these mixed in with a large lot of Paulson roulette's I picked up some years ago. I'd imagine they were also distributed by Langworthy. I also had what appear to be a high quality ceramic version mixed in with the clays. Any idea who made the ceramics? For science...

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Wow! Cool. I love this thread, we keep turning up more and more history here.

Those ceramics look like they have a texture, a sort of crosshatch / linen texture. Is the surface of the chip textured, or is the texture printed onto a smooth surface?

The corners on those ceramics are worn white, which I think is a telltale of Chipco ceramics, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
 
Wow! Cool. I love this thread, we keep turning up more and more history here.

Those ceramics look like they have a texture, a sort of crosshatch / linen texture. Is the surface of the chip textured, or is the texture printed onto a smooth surface?

The corners on those ceramics are worn white, which I think is a telltale of Chipco ceramics, but I don't know enough to say for sure.

Yep, textured. They are really well made. Feel and sound great. They almost had me fooled into thinking they were clay. They have a shiny rolling edge, which was a telling sign they were ceramic. I had to break one open. Here are a few more shots.

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Ran across a little more information regarding Paranoid chips / material, roulette inlaid chips, and other types of vintage chips. Check this out:

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Source: http://www.ccgtcc-ccn.com/ClayChips.pdf - That's from the Casino Chip and Gaming Tokens Collectors Club. The relevant observations are:
  • "Paranoid" is definitely a material - "a fibrous composition that is tough and durable"
  • "Composition chips" were a fairly common description of lots of different chips sold at the time, but in this particular instance, note that the inlaid roulette chips are described as Paranoid whereas the plain chips are described as composition chips. So this pretty strongly suggests that the two types of chips are made of two different types of materials, with Paranoid being reserved for the premium chips.
Probably both of them are composites of celluloid or a celluloid-like plastic (i.e. derived from cellulose, nitric acid, and camphor or similar subtances) plus clay, sand, or other minerals, plus a variety of other materials such as whatever makes Paranoid "fibrous". There weren't a lot of choices at that time for plastic-like, moldable, workable materials. But of the two, Paranoid was tougher and more expensive than the other.

The full article notes that at least in the early days TR King was reselling chips manufactured by USPCC using the TR King exclusive Crowns mold. USPCC was also marketing chips using the Paranoid label. I wouldn't be surprised if Paranoid was their own house name for the material, and the material itself may even have been unique and proprietary to USPCC.

This is also interesting:

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From this we can see that TR King (via USPCC) offered molded, hotstamped chips that were also made from Paranoid. So it's not just plain-mold die-cut inlaid generic symbol chips that used this material, but also customized molded chips.

Even more interesting is that here we see the "speed chips" being offered that use a material with "extra weight". So that's three different types of chips on offer here: "composition", "Paranoid", and "extra weight" (plus the paper chips, but never mind that). I think we would recognize any of them as "clay" chips today - they're compression-molded, have inlays or hotstamps, and are made of a plastic composite with a substantial mineral content (presumably, but not certainly). We just need the inlays to be litho printed, and maybe some further improvements to the composite to make it heavier and tougher, and hey presto we're talking about real casino chips! Not quite there yet, but getting close.
And people go crazy for a little lead in their chips, give me some mercury! I bet those were casino weight for sure :LOL: :laugh: :LOL: :laugh:
 
I know I'm 4 years late to the party but is there a consensus on feel / preference to the round vs square paranoids, regardless of the authenticity?
 
I know I'm 4 years late to the party but is there a consensus on feel / preference to the round vs square paranoids, regardless of the authenticity?
The square feel much more like casino chips. The round feel more like a toy to me.

My opinion is there aren't "fake" paranoids going around, the poster confused the matt vs glossy finish that the chips can have.
 

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