brains613
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So, are "price check" threads verboten? Bad etiquette? Just fine?
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links_slayer
4 of a Kind
these always strike me as [not so] thinly-veiled WTS/taking offers via PM type threads. maybe it's just me - and could be an artifact of the old days when we needed to pay for WTS ads and this was one way to get around that.
A few options IMO:
- Find an owner (or seller) of these chips in recent months and PM them to get their thoughts
- Hold an auction and let the market dictate the price
- Ask @BGinGA - he knows everything
Psypher1000
Straight Flush
Must...resist...urge....
Agree as to they're being thinly veiled WTS ads without listing price, but since there's no charge here for WTS that doesn't strike me as a problem.
Seems to me that the seller does it at his own peril, though. Speaking for myself, unless it's an item I've been after for a while, I'm never tempted by ads like that in the way that I am by ads that explicitly list the price.
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Jambine
Full House
Got to agree. The other thing that bothers me is raffles that end up selling enough entries to pay for the set three times over. I'm not referring to charity raffles, those usually need to raise money for a third paty.
Every raffle is a charity raffle if you view chip acquisition as a philanthropic effort.
justsomedude
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So, are "price check" threads verboten? Bad etiquette? Just fine?
Asking for a friend...
Not sure that it's bad etiquette, but as has been stated a few times, they are just poor attempts to sell product without listing a price.
Not sure anyone will flame you for it, but there are some known "chip flippers" on this forum who have been a party to this practice in the past, and they have developed a reputation for themselves as a result. I won't say exactly who these folks are, or what the specifics of said reputation are, but you can use your imagination. I will say this, people now know them, and approach doing business with them in a certain way, knowing that they're only here for money - and not developing bonds with the community.
The PCF search tool is your friend. Helps make me appear amazing, when mostly it's just a case of not being too lazy to look shit up.Ask @BGinGA - he knows everything
I think the 'official' position is that they are okay, provided they are not in the Classifieds section. An excerpt from the PCF Classifieds - Guidelines:
Tommy said:
Brought to you as a public service, courtesy of the PCF search tool.
It doesn't really bother me, but I do make a financial decision based on both the overall odds of winning and the monetary value of any raffle entry. Occasionally I will pass on a raffle even if I'd like to win the chips, if the cost numbers don't make financial sense. A bad wager is a bad wager, no matter how appealing the prize.
I think the market tends to self-correct on this issue. Raffles that are perceived to be a good value typically get a lot of participation, and those perceived to be a money grab are frequently shunned, either partially or totally.
I agree , if someone actually gets 38 $10 tickets sold for their rack worth about $100, then "players" 12-38 were willing participants, demand was there, & doesn't bother me either ..
I rarely have seen that, however. but rather more often see the raffles that do not get even enough tickets sold to get off the ground at all...
Mental Nomad
Full House
They can be that... But not always.
Can also be, "I'd like to buy this new set or get in on this group buy. Can I afford a full set if I sell these two old racks which aren't playable, but which I suspect are valuable?"
Or, "this guy is offering a two hundred of X chips for $300... I want them and suspect it's a good deal for $1.50, but these used to go for $1, and I don't know if I'm getting ripped off... But if I mention who it is, maybe someone else offers $2 because it's a steal and they're going for $2.50 lately... "
Lots of possibilities.
ssanel54
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I think a price check is fine, but you need to accept that you are going to get bunch of different opinions depending on which chips you are inquiring about. If its a commonly sold chip where the forum is in general agreement, then you could probably find the same info very quickly on eBay or search. If it's a unique set, you'll have a bunch of different opinions and sometimes they can be way off both high or low.
Mental Nomad
Full House
True... if you know what the chip is called and what to search for. If you don't have the right name for the chip, or have the right casino name but the wrong city, you can get some very wrong information.
Think of the newbs, man. Think of the newbs.
RowdyRawhide
Full House
I can't believe nobody has said it yet........
WHAT CHIPS ARE YOU SELLING?!
WHAT CHIPS ARE YOU SELLING?!
AWenger
Full House
Aha. I think you've hit the nail on the head, why this used to be a frowned upon practice, from the 'other site'. I only got started in this hobby/obsession a year or two before everyone migrated to PCF, so asking about pricing doesn't have quite the same stigma associated with it for me, as it may for others who've been around longer.
I would say it's ok to ask "what are these worth," but not in the Classified. And also not necessarily if they're chips recently sold here on PCF.
Another reason I can think of to ask for pricing/value in a public thread would be to have some sort of documentation of what other people value of sets at, especially unique chips sets, if someone needs this for insurance purposes.
I concur.
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brains613
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It doesn't really matter because I have dibs on them.
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