Hey there PCF Denizens.
I'm planning on going forward with a Matsui group buy (GB) sometime during the first half of 2019.
I'm posting this thread here in the mockups forum given I'd appreciate design input from fellow chippers. If you think you might want to take part, please don't hesitate to contribute any ideas. However, this is not an "interest" thread. Once the design is complete I'll post one in the GB forum.
Again, we're talking a 2019 GB here.... so no hurry.
I have already been in contact with Matsui and have a lot of information regarding price. Also by Saturday I will be in possession of of a full color kit and will post photos as needed to aid us in our endeavor to create the latest greatest set on PCF.
Premises for the chips:
1) I intend them to be for standard tourney. Denoms: 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 25000.
Thus, no dollar/pound/euro/won/etc signs.
If there is enough demand we can open it up to more denoms like 1, 5, 100,000, etc, but we must be careful to avoid Matsui fees for not making their 500 chip minimum order per denom.
2) I intend to use one of these 3-color or 4-color "inner ring decal value chip" moulds:
These are all in the 40mm or 39/40mm category regarding size. I need to question Matsui directly regarding what "39/40" means (unless someone here already knows... Tommy?)
The denoms WILL NOT be on the inlay itself; instead, just as in the above pics they'll be on the face of the chip surrounding the inlay. This way the inlay is the same on every denom and we only have to pay Matsui's $250 art fee ONCE and thus lower the overall cost for everyone.
Also, note the prices for the moulds. Which one we select for the GB will be one of the very first decisions made. These are Matsui's base per-chip prices and DO NOT include added costs such as:
- shipping of the entire order from Korea,
- Matsui art fees ($250 per different inlay)
- art fees from the inlay/label designer (whom is TBD)
- customs charges
- costs for me to ship the individual lots to GB participants
Nor does it include any volume DISCOUNTS that Matsui can offer once we know the total quantity of chips in the order.
3) Unlike my prior custom chip orders these WILL NOT be "Dragon" themed.
I figure a more generic look and style will make them more appealing in general.
Given the unique look of these chips I'd like the inlay casino/venue to feature something sci-fi'ish or even space-based. This will be something we can tackle in this thread in addition to the mould type. My initial thought for a name was "Galaxy Resort & Casino"; however, I'm pretty sure "Galaxy Casino" already exists as a real establishment in Macau. Given that, Matsui might have issues about inlays using such a name.
4) The inlay will be dark in color. Perhaps a black starfield or galaxy of some type with the venues name.
Once the inlay details are decided, we can talk to one of our PCF inlay artists to mock us up some samples. @P5Woody has done great work for me in the past, but given he's not available I'll talk to others like J5 potentially.
Finally, one issue I have noted with other GB or design threads is sometimes it's not quite clear as to where to find the current design iteration. Thus, as long as I can edit it, the first response below will be updated to show the current version GB mocks.
Link to Matsui's designer: http://matsuieurope.com/design-your-chips/
So, lets' get started.
I'm planning on going forward with a Matsui group buy (GB) sometime during the first half of 2019.
I'm posting this thread here in the mockups forum given I'd appreciate design input from fellow chippers. If you think you might want to take part, please don't hesitate to contribute any ideas. However, this is not an "interest" thread. Once the design is complete I'll post one in the GB forum.
Again, we're talking a 2019 GB here.... so no hurry.
I have already been in contact with Matsui and have a lot of information regarding price. Also by Saturday I will be in possession of of a full color kit and will post photos as needed to aid us in our endeavor to create the latest greatest set on PCF.
Premises for the chips:
1) I intend them to be for standard tourney. Denoms: 25, 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 25000.
Thus, no dollar/pound/euro/won/etc signs.
If there is enough demand we can open it up to more denoms like 1, 5, 100,000, etc, but we must be careful to avoid Matsui fees for not making their 500 chip minimum order per denom.
2) I intend to use one of these 3-color or 4-color "inner ring decal value chip" moulds:
These are all in the 40mm or 39/40mm category regarding size. I need to question Matsui directly regarding what "39/40" means (unless someone here already knows... Tommy?)
The denoms WILL NOT be on the inlay itself; instead, just as in the above pics they'll be on the face of the chip surrounding the inlay. This way the inlay is the same on every denom and we only have to pay Matsui's $250 art fee ONCE and thus lower the overall cost for everyone.
Also, note the prices for the moulds. Which one we select for the GB will be one of the very first decisions made. These are Matsui's base per-chip prices and DO NOT include added costs such as:
- shipping of the entire order from Korea,
- Matsui art fees ($250 per different inlay)
- art fees from the inlay/label designer (whom is TBD)
- customs charges
- costs for me to ship the individual lots to GB participants
Nor does it include any volume DISCOUNTS that Matsui can offer once we know the total quantity of chips in the order.
3) Unlike my prior custom chip orders these WILL NOT be "Dragon" themed.
I figure a more generic look and style will make them more appealing in general.
Given the unique look of these chips I'd like the inlay casino/venue to feature something sci-fi'ish or even space-based. This will be something we can tackle in this thread in addition to the mould type. My initial thought for a name was "Galaxy Resort & Casino"; however, I'm pretty sure "Galaxy Casino" already exists as a real establishment in Macau. Given that, Matsui might have issues about inlays using such a name.
4) The inlay will be dark in color. Perhaps a black starfield or galaxy of some type with the venues name.
Once the inlay details are decided, we can talk to one of our PCF inlay artists to mock us up some samples. @P5Woody has done great work for me in the past, but given he's not available I'll talk to others like J5 potentially.
Finally, one issue I have noted with other GB or design threads is sometimes it's not quite clear as to where to find the current design iteration. Thus, as long as I can edit it, the first response below will be updated to show the current version GB mocks.
Link to Matsui's designer: http://matsuieurope.com/design-your-chips/
So, lets' get started.
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