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Hi everyone! New member here from New England but long time lurker. I'm much more a board gamer than poker player but I probably got in 4-5 weekends of significant poker playing every year in the before-times (would be more if my play group liked it enough) and now its time to invest in a nice set of chips (only been using really cheap plastic ones from walmart), but you see I am quite colorblind.... I have trouble differentiating between greens, reds and oranges, and between blues, purples, and pinks so I am quite picky about the coloring and patterns of my game components.

To start off my chip buying research I got samples of Milanos, Majestics, and Dunes from Apache and I have some thoughts and I'm hoping you fine chippers can help guide me in the right direction.

  • I much prefer the feel of the Milanos and the big text in the middle is helpful in bad lighting for me to diffrentiate the denoms when I can't rely on color.
  • The colors of the Majestics are actually pretty good
  • I like texture of the Dunes but not the molding
But my biggest problem is that looking at a stack of any of the three I find it super hard to tell which chips are which because the pattern on the sides is so so busy. So since getting these samples I have been trying in vain to find a set of clay chips that have vibrant color and minimal pattern on the sides of the chips. If I could get something with just extra color on the chip, and only 4 or 8 stripes (but not 2 or 3 color stripes) it would be amazing.

This is for a cash set and I am hoping to spend $250 - $500 on 750 chips but I'm flexible. I know I could probably make this happen easily with ceramics but I much prefer clays.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this!
 

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I would suggest using chips with different edgespots per denom, as that can help. I see that more often in ceramics than clay, though. For clay (or clay-like chips), using a vibrant coloured set with a variety of spot types might work. The hard part is finding a set that works in your price range with that type of variety. In my experience, most sets in that range use a consistent pattern, and while you could get different chips from different vendors and relabel them, there's enough of a difference between the types that it could seem odd.

For example, I use the following for one of my sets which works well. Unfortunately,it's a ceramic.

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Welcome @FestiveKnight ! I am guessing the Dunes you are referring to are the fake "commemorative" plastic version. The real clay originals cost considerably more money. I always thought theMilanos were kind of dull and I think with brighter colors it may help. (I am legally color blind but can see colors as long as they are not close!)

Personally for your price range I would consider getting a sample of the Royals from Apachepokerchips.com they are fantastic for China Clay's (just like the Milanos) they are 43mm which is larger than your standard 39mm chips, larger Inlays and more surface area for color distinguishing. Not saying they are perfect but they are definitely worth a try!

Best of luck with finding the right set

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@Ben8257 These Royals right? I had looked at them, the 43mm is a good idea, and I haven't tried a sample, but just looking at the photos there's so much going on with so many colors on each I feel like it's going to be just as much of a mess like with the others I tried. The Dunes are these.
 

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@Ben8257 These Royals right? I had looked at them, the 43mm is a good idea, and I haven't tried a sample, but just looking at the photos there's so much going on with so many colors on each I feel like it's going to be just as much of a mess like with the others I tried. The Dunes are these.
I have not seen those Dunes in person. I believe they are China Clay also which is better than the cheap plastic ones. The originals do not have the opening and closing year on the chips.

Also on the Royals you don't have to leave them in the order they are now, you can order blanks and aftermarket labels and make them your own. They are just sticker labels and come right off so easy to change. That way you could pick the chips that are less busy and more distinguishable colors. Just an option.
 

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@FestiveKnight I have a sample set of the Royals that I can send you, just PM me your address.

As for the custom ceramics, brpropoker.com is who I would recommend using.
Thank you! I'll pm you right now.

I always thought lady lucks would be easy for colorblind
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Yes! These are a lot like what I have been looking for. I like how simple the pattern $0.50, $1, and $5 is, just a big blob of color. Not aestheticaly what I wish my collection could be but what will likely be easiest for me to use.
 

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This is for a cash set and I am hoping to spend $250 - $500 on 750 chips but I'm flexible. I know I could probably make this happen easily with ceramics but I much prefer clays.
33 to 66 cents per chip for clays is not very realistic, especially if you're looking for chips with a variety of spots to help you differentiate them rather than relying on the body color.

Clay chips of any sort for under a dollar are going to be very used, very unattractive, or both. Peruse the classifieds here on PCF to get some insight into the current market prices.

To be clear: the Milanos, Majestics, and Dunes that you got from Apache are "china clays", not clays. Clay chips include Paulsons, CPCs, ASMs, Burt Cos, BCCs, and TR Kings. China clays feel very different from clays, although they're more like clays than the typical metal-slugged plastic chips you can get from most retailers.

Browsing the classifieds is probably your best bet to figure out what kinds of chips will work best for your vision. There are many, many, many possibilities, and it's hard for us to really judge what's going to work best for you. By browsing the classifieds forum you'll get to see lots of different varieties of chips and chip designs. Also browse the Poker Chip PrOn forum and in particular The Official Mail Pr0n Thread for non-stop daily doses of new chips to look at. Plus it's cool and fun!

Welcome to the forum!
 
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33 to 66 cents per chip for clays is not very realistic, especially if you're looking for chips with a variety of spots to help you differentiate them rather than relying on the body color.

Clay chips of any sort for under a dollar are going to be very used, very unattractive, or both. Peruse the classifieds here on PCF to get some insight into the current market prices.

To be clear: the Milanos, Majestics, and Dunes that you got from Apache are "china clays", not clays. Clay chips include Paulsons, CPCs, ASMs, Burt Cos, BCCs, and TR Kings. China clays feel very different from clays, although they're more like clays than the typical metal-slugged plastic chips you can get from most retailers.
Okay that's totally fair. I could definitely go higher or get closer to 600 chips if I found the right set. And to clarify, I think I'd actually prefer no spots or very minimal and consist spots so I don't have as many colors going on.
 

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Clay chips without spots are called "solids" and can be had pretty cheaply, in the dollar to two dollar range. A lot of people buy these and then mill out the centers so that they can have custom labels put on them. You can also find solids with nice-looking hotstamps and leave them as is. Here's an example from Classic Poker Chips (CPC) called Atlantic Club; this is a stock design that you can purchase off-the-shelf. Paulson made a similar set called Fun Nite, here's a listing from Apache that's sold out but you can sometimes find them on ebay or through the classifieds here.

Check out the classifieds and the Pr0n threads I mentioned above to find some other solids that might work for you.

Good luck!
 

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There’s a lot of great info already shared here so I won’t pile on. @FestiveKnight you mentioned you’re looking to build a cash set.Could you tell us what denominations you’re looking for? What blinds do you play and what are your buy ins?

I have a solid (red) that I think you could use but before I make a suggestion I’d like to learn more about what kind of a set you’re looking to make.

Welcome to the forum and best of all luck with your set!
 

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Doesn't look like anyone has mentioned this yet, but I find the colors on china clays are pretty dull from the factory and really pop after a good cleaning and oiling. If you're having trouble telling the chips appart this might help. The oiled colors are definitely deeper/darker imo

Here's a picture of some Milanos from the oiling done right thread (not my picture). The left rack is straight from the factory, and the rack on the right is after a good cleaning, with the two darker chips also having been oiled.
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Link to original thread: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/oiling-chips-done-right.14343/
 

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Doesn't look like anyone has mentioned this yet, but I find the colors on china clays are pretty dull from the factory and really pop after a good cleaning and oiling. If you're having trouble telling the chips appart this might help. The oiled colors are definitely deeper/darker imo

Here's a picture of some Milanos from the oiling done right thread (not my picture). The left rack is straight from the factory, and the rack on the right is after a good cleaning, with the two darker chips also having been oiled.

Link to original thread: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/oiling-chips-done-right.14343/
Wow that oiling changes the color so much. I don't know if I would be going that far with it right now but cleaning the chips to keep the colors vibrant (and ya know, clean) seems important. Would you guess that the samples I got from Apache would be dulled right now?

There’s a lot of great info already shared here so I won’t pile on. @FestiveKnight you mentioned you’re looking to build a cash set.Could you tell us what denominations you’re looking for? What blinds do you play and what are your buy ins?

I have a solid (red) that I think you could use but before I make a suggestion I’d like to learn more about what kind of a set you’re looking to make.

Welcome to the forum and best of all luck with your set!
We use do $1/$2 and maybe $40 - $60 with a lot of buying back in. But I would also like to use this for a bunch of economic board games so I was hoping to get $1, $5, $10, $25, $50, and a small number of $100 and $500.
 

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We use do $1/$2 and maybe $40 - $60 with a lot of buying back in. But I would also like to use this for a bunch of economic board games so I was hoping to get $1, $5, $10, $25, $50, and a small number of $100 and $500.

Sounds good! Here are the solids I mentioned. I was planning on using them for my micro set as 5c chips. If you like these they could work well for your $5.

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Sounds good! Here are the solids I mentioned. I was planning on using them for my micro set as 5c chips. If you like these they could work well for your $5.

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Those look great! I'm still not sure what direction I'm going as far as combining things or trying to get one cohesive set (I am realizing I may just blow up my budget and spend the next couple of months desigining something from CPC) so thank you for the offer but I am good for now.
 

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If you go CPC, get a colour sample set. I know in my case, I'm partially red/green colour blind, and in my case, I can't tell the difference between a number of the colours from a distance. In my case, light blue, grey, and dg green are not distinguishable at arms length in a stack.

For a stock set, look at the Key West line spotted line. While they use a common spot pattern, they are denominated, and I believe the colours for the white $1, $5, $20, and $100 (which are the only denoms you should need) are different enough that they would work well. That combo also alternates between light base / dark base as you go through the denoms, which is why I would choose the $20 over the $25. Are they cheap? No. Are they really nice chips? Yes...yes they are. They are made by CPC.

https://www.keywestresortcasino.com/key-west-casino-chips.html

Hmmm...a Rounders set with a custom $20 using the yellow $1000 colours might be good as well.
http://www.classicpokerchips.com/stock/roundersc.htm

These are expensive options, though.

For ceramics, this is an example of BR PRo Poker, which may be an option. If you go aligned, the edge spots go to the edge so there's no outer ring (based on other posts).
https://brpropoker.com/collections/...f-the-river-sample-set?variant=32311971807321

They also have semi-custom options. A yellow $20 with the stock $1, $5, and $100 with custom wording could work well.
https://brpropoker.com/collections/high-stakes/products/semi-custom-high-stakes-poker-chip
 
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If you go CPC, get a colour sample set. I know in my case, I'm partially red/green colour blind, and in my case, I can't tell the difference between a number of the colours from a distance. In my case, light blue, grey, and dg green are not distinguishable at arms length in a stack.

For a stock set, look at the Key West line spotted line. While they use a common spot pattern, they are denominated, and I believe the colours for the white $1, $5, $20, and $100 (which are the only denoms you should need) are different enough that they would work well. That combo also alternates between light base / dark base as you go through the denoms, which is why I would choose the $20 over the $25. Are they cheap? No. Are they really nice chips? Yes...yes they are. They are made by CPC.

https://www.keywestresortcasino.com/key-west-casino-chips.html

Hmmm...a Rounders set with a custom $20 using the yellow $1000 colours might be good as well.
http://www.classicpokerchips.com/stock/roundersc.htm

These are expensive options, though.

For ceramics, this is an example of BR PRo Poker, which may be an option. If you go aligned, the edge spots go to the edge so there's no outer ring (based on other posts).
https://brpropoker.com/collections/...f-the-river-sample-set?variant=32311971807321

They also have semi-custom options. A yellow $20 with the stock $1, $5, and $100 with custom wording could work well.
https://brpropoker.com/collections/high-stakes/products/semi-custom-high-stakes-poker-chip
Ya I just went ahead and got the color and Amold samples from CPC because I am heavily leaning that direction. Also going to get some mineral oil to oil up the China Clay samples I got from Apache.

If you go CPC, get a colour sample set. I know in my case, I'm partially red/green colour blind, and in my case, I can't tell the difference between a number of the colours from a distance. In my case, light blue, grey, and dg green are not distinguishable at arms length in a stack.

For a stock set, look at the Key West line spotted line. While they use a common spot pattern, they are denominated, and I believe the colours for the white $1, $5, $20, and $100 (which are the only denoms you should need) are different enough that they would work well. That combo also alternates between light base / dark base as you go through the denoms, which is why I would choose the $20 over the $25. Are they cheap? No. Are they really nice chips? Yes...yes they are. They are made by CPC.

https://www.keywestresortcasino.com/key-west-casino-chips.html

Hmmm...a Rounders set with a custom $20 using the yellow $1000 colours might be good as well.
http://www.classicpokerchips.com/stock/roundersc.htm

These are expensive options, though.

For ceramics, this is an example of BR PRo Poker, which may be an option. If you go aligned, the edge spots go to the edge so there's no outer ring (based on other posts).
https://brpropoker.com/collections/...f-the-river-sample-set?variant=32311971807321

They also have semi-custom options. A yellow $20 with the stock $1, $5, and $100 with custom wording could work well.
https://brpropoker.com/collections/high-stakes/products/semi-custom-high-stakes-poker-chip
Also I see that looking for Fun Nites in your sig, I've seen those before, like exactly what I would want but no way that's happening lol. They're gorgeous chips.
 

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We have a number of colour challenged people in our league, so it's an ongoing concern. I'm working on a design for the next Cards Mold ceramic buy, and I've used the Coblis color blindness simulator a lot.

https://www.color-blindness.com/coblis-color-blindness-simulator/

But in general, you'll want bold vibrant colours that contrast, and a large denom doesn't hurt.

Re: the fun nites work well, but there are multiple versions (Paulson, BCC) that use different colors. They don't always match. I've lucked out, and the set I use works well. But I have a ceramic set as well with different edge spots per denom in case I know a player with severe color issues is attending.
 

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We have a number of colour challenged people in our league, so it's an ongoing concern. I'm working on a design for the next Cards Mold ceramic buy, and I've used the Coblis color blindness simulator a lot.

https://www.color-blindness.com/coblis-color-blindness-simulator/

But in general, you'll want bold vibrant colours that contrast, and a large denom doesn't hurt.

Re: the fun nites work well, but there are multiple versions (Paulson, BCC) that use different colors. They don't always match. I've lucked out, and the set I use works well. But I have a ceramic set as well with different edge spots per denom in case I know a player with severe color issues is attending.
I have used that tool before, I have Protanomaly and I find it great for explaining to people. Obviously its a bit hard for me to know if its "accurate" to what I see because well, I see all the images "altered" already but just the idea of colors looking more similar to each other can be hard for people to get.

It is interesting though, there's like a pretty common "strain" of colorblindness which is red-green but there's a ton more variety to it and different people rely on different things. I know some people probably would probably find it easier to have a set with a wide variety of distinct edge spots to memorize and use to differentiate the pieces but I find with that much color-noise it gets way harder for me. I can't necessarily name the colors but if there are big blocks of solid color I can usually tell them apart even if I have no clue what color they actually are.
 

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Hi everyone! New member here from New England but long time lurker. I'm much more a board gamer than poker player but I probably got in 4-5 weekends of significant poker playing every year in the before-times (would be more if my play group liked it enough) and now its time to invest in a nice set of chips (only been using really cheap plastic ones from walmart), but you see I am quite colorblind.... I have trouble differentiating between greens, reds and oranges, and between blues, purples, and pinks so I am quite picky about the coloring and patterns of my game components.

To start off my chip buying research I got samples of Milanos, Majestics, and Dunes from Apache and I have some thoughts and I'm hoping you fine chippers can help guide me in the right direction.

  • I much prefer the feel of the Milanos and the big text in the middle is helpful in bad lighting for me to diffrentiate the denoms when I can't rely on color.
  • The colors of the Majestics are actually pretty good
  • I like texture of the Dunes but not the molding
But my biggest problem is that looking at a stack of any of the three I find it super hard to tell which chips are which because the pattern on the sides is so so busy. So since getting these samples I have been trying in vain to find a set of clay chips that have vibrant color and minimal pattern on the sides of the chips. If I could get something with just extra color on the chip, and only 4 or 8 stripes (but not 2 or 3 color stripes) it would be amazing.

This is for a cash set and I am hoping to spend $250 - $500 on 750 chips but I'm flexible. I know I could probably make this happen easily with ceramics but I much prefer clays.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this
I also colourblind with similar colour issue, I avoid the brown 25c Milano for this issue and go with the grey 50c instead

Grey 50c White $1 Red $5 Green $25 and Black $100 should be okay for all colour blind user

If you play 25c/50c just play 50c/$1 scale down half And for 10c/20c just play 50c/$1 scale down one fifth
 

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If I were designing a set with colorblindness in mind, I would do simple inlays with large, easy-to read denominations, with varied edgespots that can be easily distinguished from each other. For instance, this set has no repeated spot patterns.
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However, these three chips might be hard to distinguish in pots or stacks if colorblindness is an issue.
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following.... genuinely curious what chip colours work best for those with colour blindness. I did not even consider this when developing my my custom sets

how do these chips fair for those with colour field challenges so that I am aware?

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