Tourney Chip's needed and blind schedule using $1's?? (1 Viewer)

[upNdown]

I'm not sure why nobody uses $1's in their tournaments, other than it isn't exciting.
I bough horseshoes, thinking about a .25/.50 set. But now I'm thinking I should make it a tournament set.
What's the cheapest way to add on to convert this to a single table tournament set?
And if anybody has a blind schedule that would get it done in about 4 hrs?

I have:
200 x $1
135 x $5
50 x $25
25 x $100
5 x $500

 

[WillAndrew]

I did this last week on their virgin night. Went well with a super casual group, but anyone showing up strictly to play poker would have been disappointed by the pace. It was deliberately slow because we had half the table at their first tournament.

T200
Starting stacks:
15 x $1's
12 x $5's
5 x $25's

I basically took what was a consensus usable T2000 divided by 10 and adjusted it to account for not having any form of frac leaning on the slower side each time I needed to round.

$1/$1
Double round (40 minutes) of $1/$2 (First round of deep stack $1/$1 introduced the concept of blinds raising early on for new players, and the double round made their poor play hurt less and eased the fear of the clock. I firmly believe this worked really well.)
$2/$4
$2/$5 (Probably the first one to get cut if you need a quicker game. Recommended, really)
$3/$6
$4/$8
$5/$10
$7/$15
$10/$20
$15/$30
$20/$40
$25/$50

It works. Quarters or $0.50's would make the schedule much smoother and save the whole "what the hell is this?" from your players when the big blind isn't double the small blind. My tourney ended much quicker than expected (at the $7/$15 round) but this was due to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place going All-In in two consecutive hands and running into the big stack with a hand. Biggest issue with this is not being able to color up the $1's until after the seventh round. As it stands, you need a few more $25's for potential color ups and could stand a few $5's for the same reason. Someone who knows what they're doing could probably get your $100's in play but I'll leave that to them. The amount of $1's you have lends your set to T100-T200 tournaments. You could deep stack to T500 to play some hundos but that won't finish in 4 hours unless you turbo the blinds. Good luck, and once the cards fly, don't worry about your structure and just enjoy the game!

 

[Trihonda]

I very much dislike using tourmeys with $1's and $5's in the structure. For starters, it doesn't flow or play like what most people are used to in a casino tourney. That said, different isn't always bad... Except in this case. IMHO people using lower denoms for tourneys are almost always wanting to use the sets for double duty, tourney sometimes, and possibly cash sometimes... This is a very bad idea.

 

[WillAndrew]

I very much dislike using tourmeys with $1's and $5's in the structure. For starters, it doesn't flow or play like what most people are used to in a casino tourney. That said, different isn't always bad... Except in this case. IMHO people using lower denoms for tourneys are almost always wanting to use the sets for double duty, tourney sometimes, and possibly cash sometimes... This is a very bad idea.

I do agree with this. This tournament was with great longtime friends and their first timer girls. And I wanted to get the 'Shoes on the felt

-Edit-
It's obvious why using a set for double duty is a bad idea, but in this case, a set that is this easy to count at the end of the night doesn't seem like any worse of an idea than selling a bunch of $3 Paulsons to someone who knows what he's playing with for $0.25 or $0.50 at a cash game as many times as he wants to buy them. Play with your chips man, have fun!

 

[upNdown]

I hear that too.
For the amount of money i'd need to set up a decent horseshoes tournament set, I might be better off just trying to trade the horseshoes I have for a ceramic tournament set.

 

[mummel]

I wonder though, if everyone buys in for $25 or whatever, and you issue the same amount in chips, how it feels towards end game, placing bets with chips that that real value vs "raise $10,000". Could be fun.

 

[WillAndrew]

Was too drunk by then to comment on that. I was one of the idiots pushing with air.

 

[catalyzeme]

If you wanted to do tourney you could probably sell the ones and add on some $25s and $100s to get a T1000 or T1500 set.

10/10/7 starting stacks for T1000
10/18/10 starting stacks for T1500

Adjust from there maybe, but 10 person set with under 300 chips for T1000 and under 400 chips for T1500; you would need more 25s and hundreds though.

10/10/7/1 with a 500 for each player would also get you to T1500 with under 300 chips.

I'm not really much of a breakdown/blind level guru though. You'd start at 100 or 150 BBs here probably and that would be cut dramatically once levels start going up. I usually like to start with some more meaningless levels.

 

[BGinGA]

I'm not sure why nobody uses $1's in their tournaments, other than it isn't exciting.
I bough horseshoes, thinking about a .25/.50 set. But now I'm thinking I should make it a tournament set.
What's the cheapest way to add on to convert this to a single table tournament set?
And if anybody has a blind schedule that would get it done in about 4 hrs?

I have:
200 x $1
135 x $5
50 x $25
25 x $100
5 x $500

T1000 stacks (250BB)

rd sb bb
L1 2 4
L2 3 6
L3 4 8
L4 6 12
L5 8 16
remove T1 chips
L6 10 20
L7 15 30
L8 20 40
L9 30 60
L10 40 80
remove T5 chips
L11 50 100
L12 75 150
L13 100 200
L14 150 300
remove T25 chips
L15 200 400
L16 300 600 ***
L17 400 800
L18 600 1200

With 15 minute levels, a single-table tournament should last no later than L16 (four hours plus breaks).

starting stacks:
10 x T1
8 x T5
10 x T25
7 x T100
----------------
35 chips = T1000

chip set:
100 x T1
80 x T5
100 x T25
75 x T100 (includes 5x to color-up T1 and T5 chips)
5 x T500 (used to color-up T25 chips)
----------------
360 chips

Your current set needs 50 additional $25 chips and 50 additional $100 chips.

 

[BGinGA]

Just don't use the set for cash. Or charge $1000 for the tournament buy-ins.

 

[Craig D]

The T$200 stack above looks good, the only thing that counts is a good blind structure with a minimum of 50 big blinds in a good starting stack breakdown (the sum of a chip tournament face value should equal at least two of the next highest denominations)

Once you use the chips in a tournament they cannot be used the same night in a cash game, and if ONE chip goes missing that denomination shouldn't be used in a cash game again

I would have to choose labels for the current chips, or buy more chips some 5s, 25s, 100s, maybe even some 500s (this may not be possible)

Have Fun

 

[upNdown]

Yeah I'm definitely going to try this. I've got more $25's now, but I got shut out of the $100's in the main sale. Hopefully I can track down a half-rack of hundos soon, because I'm actually excited to give this a shot. Originally I thought the idea of playing with $1's, and that strange blind structure from @BGinGA was too weird. But actually, it should run smooth as snot, and a good bit better than a T1000 with 5's as the lowest denom.