Chip guide and CC&GTCC issue (1 Viewer)

[ovo]

Hi Guys,

I can't really say I was a chip collector when I started buying poker chips for home use, but maybe, 16 years later, I can say I do some collecting. What bothers me about The Chip Rack, The Chip Guide, is , it seems the collectors that have been doing this for years , don't have an appreciation for getting the chip colors accurately named, using basic color names, rather than the exact colors from paulson, bcc, bud jones, matsui, etc... That strikes me strange, as it was one of the first things I wanted to do when identifying chips. So why are the big time collectors not doing this ?????????????? or am I wrong ?

 

[upNdown]

I can’t speak for singles collectors and since I don’t even hang out on the chip board, I shouldn’t even speculate. But my guess is that it’s just a different approach to the hobby. We build sets and play with them. So knowing exact colors is important to us. We’re collecting chips that interact well together; that match one another or complement me another. And since we all usually buy chips without seeing them in person, and since pictures (or scans, puke) aren’t accurate, knowing exact colors is important to us.

I imagine they just put a chip in a binder, check a box somewhere that they own one, and then move on to the next one.

 

[AlbinoDragon]

My guess is the colors on most of the listings on the chip guide are purely based off the colors someone sees in the photo/scan that's posted. It's just a crowd-sourced thing with no consistency.

A favorite, and it's been fixed with a better scan, but for a while I think the Golden Nugget Vegas $1000 chip was listed as having a green base. Admittedly it did look a bit green as it was a worn chip and the metallic gold had naturally picked up the greenish tint that it does.

 

[ovo]

Well, when I think of true collectors, I think of meticulous people when it comes to their hobby. A chip if more than a mold or a grade of quality, it has color too . And there are a lot of different blues and greens, etc...

 

[RivieraDanny]

Well, when I think of true collectors, I think of meticulous people when it comes to their hobby. A chip if more than a mold or a grade of quality, it has color too . And there are a lot of different blues and greens, etc...

AGREE!!!!!

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

Most of those guys scan chips with a 90s era scanner they use on the Win98 PC to browse TCB and many colors end up wrong

The level of give a fuk there to do something modern and accurate is why I could care less about the ChipWRECK

NO CREDIT to the chip guide

 

[upNdown]

Most of those guys scan chips with a 90s era scanner they use on the Win98 PC to browse TCB and many colors end up wrong

The level of give a fuk there to do something modern and accurate is why I could care less about the ChipWRECK

NO CREDIT to the chip guide

I recently bought one of these (his scan):

Imagine my surprise when I received this:

Way to go, old school!

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

I recently bought one of these (his scan):
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Imagine my surprise when I received this:
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Way to go, old school!

Arch
Peach
Pink
Blaze

Maybe more all like that
I’ve seen 7 different color claims for the same chip on TCG because of all the different scanners and terrible pics

Like FFS

 

[FDLmold]

My favorite is this:

That chip in that color does not exist. Never has. But the scan remains. They even call THAT chip pink, because they know it is supposed to be this one:

Just a joke with some of the chips over there that should scan orange or pink or light purple. It takes a GOOD scanner to get those colors done well, and not everybody had one.

 

[Colquhoun]

The interesting thing is that car aficionados go out of their way to describe car paints according to what the manufacturer named them. One example, "Plum Crazy" or at least C7 Purple, is the name given to the original 1970 Challenger purple....
Car folks over the years have gone out of their way to not just call it purple, but by the proper manufacturer name. Same with all other colors by the manufacturers.

I'm surprised all chip collectors don't follow manufacturer color names.

 

[Okku]

I've noticed more and more members on here start to say they are looking for let's say "day green" THC chips, almond, peach, blaze orange, day blue and so on. Which to me makes it that much easier for someone to know exactly what they are looking for. They won't have any trouble if there happens to be different blue chips in a stack because they will all hopefully match each other. The same goes for other chips, not just Paulsons.

In a way I wish that everyone had that mindset or knew that there are multiple different blues, oranges, pinks, yellows and more. I know that everyone doesn't have access to a Paulson sample set or they don't have the money for one, but if it was possible (and I know it is) to get a database that could have almost every chip in existence with the exact color would be a HUGE game changer. Might be something for us to think about in the future.

That way, anyone that doesn't have access can at least look it up and have the ability to match other chips if they are mixing and matching.

I know there are people out there that have sample sets sitting in storage collecting dust when they could be getting used the right way...

 

[louBdub]

Dude…. I’m new here, got it…

But I’m definitely not new to cars. Or being particular in general on colors.

Imagine my surprise when I find THE CHIP GUIDE has a website that’s like….

Green, Green, Green….. 3 different colors.

Yellow, Yellow, Yellow….. Yup, 3 different again. As you all know.

As someone building a mixed set, I have absolutely found a ridiculous amount of wrong color labels and wildly wrong pictures.

We need an APP!!!! Someone who does apps, let’s get that goin. I know you’re out there reading this! Haha. Chronology App, but chips.

 

[FDLmold]

We could only really do the color thing for Paulson chips. Although now that I think of it, people have TRK color/sample sets, BCC color/sample sets, and we know all the Burt/ASM/CPC colors. Except for old chips from weird manufacturers, if we had chips to compare to standards, we could name all the colors properly I imagine.

 

[louBdub]

@Tommy you should look at making an app. I’ll donate. Kickstart that bad boy! I’m in!

 

[Okku]

I'm working on getting as many TR King samples as possible. Got a pretty nice sample set of Kings Crown stamped chips which I took pictures of the other week so I've got all those documented. Sort of hard naming them because I'm not 100% sure. I'll have to do some more digging.

 

[Tommy]

I'm working on getting as many TR King samples as possible. Got a pretty nice sample set of Kings Crown stamped chips which I took pictures of the other week so I've got all those documented. Sort of hard naming them because I'm not 100% sure. I'll have to do some more digging.

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Check out the color reference here. Not sure if it is 100%

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/resources/trk-chip-color-reference.19/

 

[Okku]

Check out the color reference here. Not sure if it is 100%

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/resources/trk-chip-color-reference.19/

SWEET! Thanks for showing me this.

 

[Tommy]

In the chip DB, if you use the chip search, pick Paulson and a basic color like blue, it will show all the Paulson blues with the manufacturer color names.

EX: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/chipdb/categories/casino-sets.1/chip-search?mfr_brand=2&color_group=3

 

[Okku]

In the chip DB, if you use the chip search, pick Paulson and a basic color like blue, it will show all the Paulson blues with the manufacturer color names.

EX: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/chipdb/categories/casino-sets.1/chip-search?mfr_brand=2&color_group=3

Is this something anyone can contribute to and is it possible to enhance this in the future?

For example: Search for Horizon Blue and it would show results for Horizon Blue in alphabetical order.

I think that would be extremely helpful and would save people so much time.

 

[FestiveKnight]

How about spots too??? The query could be so much better for chippers like us if it had accurate colors and spots. Also annoying that denom is not tagged for so many

 

[Okku]

How about spots too??? The query could be so much better for chippers like us if it had accurate colors and spots. Also annoying that denom is not tagged for so many

I was honestly thinking about this too. Being able to search by edge spot variation would also be HUGE.

 

[Tommy]

Is this something anyone can contribute to and is it possible to enhance this in the future?

Yes and Yes

For example: Search for Horizon Blue and it would show results for Horizon Blue in alphabetical order.

Like an advanced search for Paulson chips? Base color name, spot pattern, chip size? (denom and molds are already there.) This issue is too much drill down terms may return no results. No everyone knows the spot official colors names and spot pattern names.

 

[ovo]

I always dope out my colors on my chips, paulson, trk, blue chip, asm, bud jones, working on other manufacturers . Some color sets are not complete, but close

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

I've noticed more and more members on here start to say they are looking for let's say "day green" THC chips, almond, peach, blaze orange, day blue and so on. Which to me makes it that much easier for someone to know exactly what they are looking for. They won't have any trouble if there happens to be different blue chips in a stack because they will all hopefully match each other. The same goes for other chips, not just Paulsons.

In a way I wish that everyone had that mindset or knew that there are multiple different blues, oranges, pinks, yellows and more. I know that everyone doesn't have access to a Paulson sample set or they don't have the money for one, but if it was possible (and I know it is) to get a database that could have almost every chip in existence with the exact color would be a HUGE game changer. Might be something for us to think about in the future.

That way, anyone that doesn't have access can at least look it up and have the ability to match other chips if they are mixing and matching.

I know there are people out there that have sample sets sitting in storage collecting dust when they could be getting used the right way...

its almost like they should have a good color database with all the Paulson colors
oh wait
the chip guide has them all LOFL
just don't scan them XD

 

[jpietrella]

Most of those guys scan chips with a 90s era scanner they use on the Win98 PC to browse TCB and many colors end up wrong

The level of give a fuk there to do something modern and accurate is why I could care less about the ChipWRECK

NO CREDIT to the chip guide

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

CrEdiT tO tHe ChIp GuiDE

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[CrazyEddie]

Singles collectors and set collectors are two entirely different hobbies. Yes, there's plenty of overlap, but we have different aims and different needs. Singles collectors don't need to know precise color shades because they aren't trying to match colors.

And besides, here on PCF we are mainly focused on just one manufacturer and their particular, unique color palette. Singles collectors - if they were interested in precise color variations at all - would need to compile and maintain color references from Paulson, Burt, USPCC, Bud Jones, B&G, and Abbiati at the very least just to cover the most commonly seen chips in their collections.

 

[billnict]

Singles collectors and set collectors are two entirely different hobbies. Yes, there's plenty of overlap, but we have different aims and different needs. Singles collectors don't need to know precise color shades because they aren't trying to match colors.

And besides, here on PCF we are mainly focused on just one manufacturer and their particular, unique color palette. Singles collectors - if they were interested in precise color variations at all - would need to compile and maintain color references from Paulson, Burt, USPCC, Bud Jones, B&G, and Abbiati at the very least just to cover the most commonly seen chips in their collections.

^^ This right here ^^

 

[gmunny]

Singles collectors and set collectors are two entirely different hobbies. Yes, there's plenty of overlap, but we have different aims and different needs. Singles collectors don't need to know precise color shades because they aren't trying to match colors.

And besides, here on PCF we are mainly focused on just one manufacturer and their particular, unique color palette. Singles collectors - if they were interested in precise color variations at all - would need to compile and maintain color references from Paulson, Burt, USPCC, Bud Jones, B&G, and Abbiati at the very least just to cover the most commonly seen chips in their collections.

Eddie is correct. Most of the singles collectors started by bringing home a chip or two while playing craps or black jack. Many of them (including myself), want to know about the history of a casino that has names attached like Benny Binion, Milton Prell or Bugsy Seigel. They don't really care if there $5 chip is radiant red or blaze orange.

 

[ovo]

Although some people want to know chip colors to blend with their sets, My reason for knowing chip colors was for the precise knowledge that I thought would compliment the hobby. They ID different fonts on hotstamps, (this one has a big R, this one has a small R) so why be so lazy to call a color green when it has a correct name of dark green , or forest green